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Snopes attacks HCQ+ZPAK as treatments.
1 posted on 03/31/2020 12:31:00 PM PDT by nwrep
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nwrep wrote: “Snopes attacks HCQ+ZPAK as treatments.”

That should have read: ‘Snopes receives talking points from DNC.’


2 posted on 03/31/2020 12:32:43 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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Please quit abusing the news forum and frontpage with your vanities.


3 posted on 03/31/2020 12:33:21 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To me the best indicator yet that it actually works.


4 posted on 03/31/2020 12:33:56 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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Treat all things from Snopes as dirty bird droppings!


6 posted on 03/31/2020 12:41:01 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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Snopes has so thoroughly discredited itself we don’t ever look at it anymore. Soroznazi funded disinformation


7 posted on 03/31/2020 12:41:47 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they are excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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Yes, of course, and Snopes is so authoritative, gg Snopes. /s


8 posted on 03/31/2020 12:42:45 PM PDT by cranked
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It’s a standard “appeal to authority” argument.


9 posted on 03/31/2020 12:44:49 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Honestly, the doctor sounds sketchy to me, 669 patients? He would have to test about 7,000 possible infected people to get 669, how does one doctor do that in a couple weeks?

Sounds like BS to me as well

I am not saying HCQ isn’t effective, it seems to be effective from legit people and doctors who are using it or have taken.

But I do agree with snopes that this guy’s story is BS.


10 posted on 03/31/2020 12:46:30 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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Dear Snopes,

“No Hydroxychloroquine+ZPAK for you!”

;-)


11 posted on 03/31/2020 12:48:00 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ( Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less!)
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If it’s political, and it’s Snopes - it’s #FakeNews.


12 posted on 03/31/2020 12:49:08 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer's p*ssboy)
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Gosh, should we take alll our medical advice from a lying DNC fact checker rag. Better check their archives on my prostate! Chalk this under, ‘who gives a sh!t!’


13 posted on 03/31/2020 12:51:28 PM PDT by Bommer (I am a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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Snopes for dopes.


15 posted on 03/31/2020 12:57:07 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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are we allowed to link to them?


16 posted on 03/31/2020 12:57:10 PM PDT by snarkytart
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SO YOU LEFTIST LOONS. IF YOU GET COVID19, DON'T TAKE Hydroxychloroquine. End of discussion. Nobody is making you.
17 posted on 03/31/2020 12:59:30 PM PDT by snarkytart
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LIkewise it is only anecdotal that refraining from playing in traffic saves lives. We have not done a double blind study where we randomly picked kids and then randomly told 1/2 of them to play in the street and half of them to play on a fenced off playground, so we just don't know.

Zalenko is a family practitioner, relying on a trusted community of patients for his livelihood. Any medical doctor making false claims about the effectiveness of this treatment would certainly endanger his reputation and his practice if not his license. I suppose he could go on the book sale tour along with those proclaiming the virtues of silver colloid.

Sure, at some level it's unproven but it's also un-unproven. Those deriding it have no proof and no means of proving that it doesn't work, which requires a license, patients infected with the Wuhan Virus, and a supply of medications to use.

19 posted on 03/31/2020 12:59:57 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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The real reason Snopes doesn’t like this is that Dr. Zelenko is an orthodox Jew, as were his patients.


20 posted on 03/31/2020 1:05:26 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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Thus say the medical experts at Snopes. There isn’t one of those turds who wouldn’t take these drugs in a heartbeat if they were infected.


21 posted on 03/31/2020 1:08:50 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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New World Order working overtime these days to crush all hope.


23 posted on 03/31/2020 1:08:53 PM PDT by firebrand
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Snopes has no credibility. It's like the DU of fact checking.
25 posted on 03/31/2020 1:10:28 PM PDT by McGruff (It came from China)
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I presume that many informed medical specialist are using their understanding of molecular biology to understand Covid-19 and postulate ways to apply therapeutic measures to diminish the negative impact to the disease. Dr. Zelenko mentioned that he had reviewed the experience in China, South Korea, France and Spain and came up with informed theories as how to treat infected patients.
This VIDEO [https://youtu.be/Eeh054-Hx1U?t=165] (15 min) explanation of the Covid-19 virus mechanism (somewhat technical) shows how the virus hijacks the normal cell “machinery”. The virus invades the cell cytoplasm (outer layer) and replicates vigorously to damage the (lung??) cell and also “bud off” (spread the virus, say through coughing) sending millions of new virus to infect human bodies. The key is how to stop/attenuate the replication of the virus when it enters the cell cytoplasm.

It turns out if the concentration of zinc in the cytoplasm can be increased the replication mechanism is attenuated. But how do you get the zinc into the cell? (Oral zinc will not do it!)
Remdesivir may work and here is why [https://youtu.be/Mm7UrZeu-74?t=240]. Random /blind studies are ongoing.

Another solution is to bring on the Zinc Ionophore [https://youtu.be/U7F1cnWup9M?t=93]. From a 2014 cancer study, research has indicated that CHLOROQUINE Diphosphate (used to treat malaria since 1955) will open a gate into the cell and then available zinc is transported into the cell, significantly increasing the intercellular zinc. The combination of chloroquine and zinc gets the desired effect – more zinc in the cell and the shutdown of the virus replication.

Papers have been published in China, South Korea, and France, and several tests/trials are ongoing in NYC. The MedCram doctors are encouraging randomized control trials, but at this time they are cautiously optimistic. With this background, it is understandable why Zelenko took the steps that he did to treat his patients. In time, the trials will tell whether this is treatment is “proven” to be a good approach to the disease.


27 posted on 03/31/2020 1:12:35 PM PDT by moe
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