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OK, I know most of us are not first time gun buyers but this is posted just as an FYI about what's supposedly available now.

Now the first time gun buyer can also experience gun control.


1 posted on 03/30/2020 10:34:51 AM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 03/30/2020 10:35:51 AM PDT by PROCON (Molon Labe)
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ugh. I hate plastic guns.

I’d suggest a Star BM. They’re solid service weapons which have generally been well taken care of and which were recently surplussed by Spain. You can get one for about $250.


3 posted on 03/30/2020 10:40:14 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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it goes without debating that they should purchase a 9mm

As a long time shooting instructor, I tell my students that if you go into a gun store to buy a gun, and the person behind the counter says "this is what you want", turn around and walk out. They don't know what you want because they haven't asked a lot of questions that go into finding the right gun.

Having said that, 9mm is a certainly a good option for a lot of people.

5 posted on 03/30/2020 10:43:04 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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For later.

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8 posted on 03/30/2020 10:45:51 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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I wouldn't recommend a semi auto for a first time handgun buyer who is in a panicked rush to get a handgun. But, that's just me.

They buy the gun. Maybe fire a box of shells. Put it in a drawer. A year later they take it out and maybe have forgotten how it operates.

My 1911s have external safetys. Up is safe; down to fire.

My Beretta 92FS Inox also has an external safety. Down is safe. Up to fire. Two of my Sigs (226 and 220) have external levers, but none are safeties. A hammer drop. A slide lock. And a slide release.

My P239 SAS DAK Sig has neither a hammer drop or safety. It's DA only.

All the above can be confusing to someone who doesn't plan to spend consistent and frequent range time.

I'd recommend a Ruger SP101 over any in the article. Pick it up. Look at the side. You can see if it's loaded or no. Point. Shoot. I have one I use for CCW if I really need concealment.

9 posted on 03/30/2020 10:46:20 AM PDT by LouAvul ("Little by little, the look of the country changes because of the men we admire.")
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For someone who is a 1st time handgun buyer, it goes without debating that they should purchase a 9mm.”

Wrong wrong wrong.

L


10 posted on 03/30/2020 10:47:17 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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There is still an embarrassment of riches to be had in this area WRT polymer-framed, striker-fired 9mm handguns of decent quality. The prices are up however, and the ammo selection is down.


12 posted on 03/30/2020 10:47:26 AM PDT by niteowl77
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Buy American made whatever you do.


13 posted on 03/30/2020 10:47:34 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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I bought a Smith & Wesson SD9VE 9mm just because it was brand new for 279 bucks. Say what you want, but it has been stone cold reliable. up to 1200 rounds so far and not a single malfunction or ANY kind. Not one hiccup. It feeds absolutely any profile of 9mm. (it’s called an Oprah gun, it will eat anything you feed it)

I dropped in the Apex spring kit for another 20 bucks and that cleaned up the trigger nicely. It is more intrinsically accurate than the M&P series pistols. The grip is perfect but not adjustable. Fits my hand like it was my... well, it fits my hand perfectly.
Fully loaded it is 2 ounces lighter than a Glock 19 with the same capacity.

Look at the slide machining and it is perfect. No cheapo feel. Don’t let the SD trigger throw you off. An APEX spring fixes it well. And to anyone raised on revolvers it will be a non event to run this trigger, but it has nothing like a revolver double action trigger pull distance.

And the best part, in the unhappy even that you use it, it won’t hurt your heart that it’s in a police crime lab just tossed on a shelf for a few years while the case is ongoing.


15 posted on 03/30/2020 10:49:45 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Okay, lady...here's one you can take home today...


16 posted on 03/30/2020 10:51:26 AM PDT by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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9 mm is a good choice due to available ammo. It’s easy to accumulate reloading components in good times. Also, if all hell breaks out, you’ll be able to readily find 9mm ammo from sources no longer functioning.


18 posted on 03/30/2020 10:53:41 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (It's official! I'm nominated for the 2020 Mr. Hyperbole and Sarcasm Award.)
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And yes, it annoys me how often I slip that SD9VE into my jeans because it is so damn good, stone cold reliable, light and fast. I can practically hear my quality revolvers, my Colt 38 Super with Mammoth ivory stocks, my sig shaking their heads in disbelief. But when I visualize “what if it was today?” I take it and don’t look back.

The must look at me like a society women seeing her man smile at the waitress.


23 posted on 03/30/2020 10:57:44 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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If you are handgun shopping on a budget, you might want to have a look at the Taurus lineup. Your not going to get the ultra-high quality and precision from your top tier manufacturers. And I wouldn’t treat any of their guns as a future museum piece or take them to a serious shooting competition. But they generally make good (not great) quality firearms at very reasonable prices that are functional and will get the job done. They also back their weapons with a lifetime warranty. I had an old Taurus Model 85 stainless .38 that was basically a knock off J Frame. No frills out of the box with old school wood grips. Never did anything other than clean it and that was one of the best carry weapons I ever owned and I have deeply regretted selling it.


24 posted on 03/30/2020 10:59:24 AM PDT by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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Hmmm...my favorite didn’t even rate a mention?

I looked at the SCCP in the article, ended up with a Taurus G2C instead, (9mm) excellent piece. And about $100 less than the Taurus in the article. 1st trip to the range, 1st 10 shots inside a 4 inch circle at 20 yards...not bad...

Lifetime warranty on everything Taurus makes and the online reviews of the G2C are all very good. Mine was $215, usual price around here about $250. So far no complaints at all for a striker rig, I’d recommend it.

But for a 1st time buyer, I think a wheel gun is a better idea till they know how to use it.


27 posted on 03/30/2020 11:01:54 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (That boy's about as sharp as a pound of wet leather - Foghorn Leghorn)
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bbl


29 posted on 03/30/2020 11:03:41 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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Good one!


32 posted on 03/30/2020 11:06:37 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Fwiw, new shooters, IMO as a former Army rangemaster of 3 decades experience, should NOT buy any semi-auto pistol.

Instead, you should FIRST buy a double-barrel or pump 12 or 20 gauge shotgun & get PROFESSIONAL TRAINING in its use.
(Even if you have never even held a firearm, most any person in one to two hours of coaching will be able to handle, maintain & safely use their shotgun to defend home & their loved ones.)

Once you are competent with a shotgun, you should buy a .38 special or .357 magnum revolver, as those handguns are about as easy to master, with proper training/practice, as a shotgun is. = MOST new shooters will be doing well with their revolver on the range within 5-8 hours of training.
(Once more, I advise getting PROFESSIONAL TRAINING.)

Just my OPINION, TMN78247
USA, Retired


49 posted on 03/30/2020 11:30:21 AM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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In time of peace, prepare for war. The time to have been prepared for something like this was before it ever started.


50 posted on 03/30/2020 11:41:53 AM PDT by AlaskaErik
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Got the Wife one of these. Brand New in Box. 2 x 10 Round Mags. Trigger Lock with 2 keys. Fits Her Hand perfectly. She’s comfortable with it. And yes Ladies, it comes in Pink. She loves it.

Lifetime Warranty, send it to them and they will repair or replace for ever. MADE IN AMERICA !!!

57 posted on 03/30/2020 12:09:28 PM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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“it goes without debating that they should purchase a 9mm”

It’s not without debate, but I agree with the author.

There’s some mighty fine 9mm ammunition on the market. And it leaves a pretty big, deep hole.


60 posted on 03/30/2020 12:32:32 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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