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Flubros and Flubras! Day 11 (vanity - open to Flubros/bras only)
Www.freerepublic.com ^ | 29 March 2020 | Impimp

Posted on 03/29/2020 8:44:30 AM PDT by impimp

It’s just the flu, bro!

Looking to find data on normal death rates for all people overall (regardless of cause) in a given country/state versus current death rates. It can get complicated because death rates change from year to year with demographics. But it might be the only way to show that there is actually a very small incremental increase in death numbers.

The current method used by many doctors seems to be to attribute any death to Corona even if it only played a minor/non-existent role in the death. This line of thinking needs to be countered with the analysis I am talking about here.


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It’s just the flu, bro!

Looking to find data on normal death rates for all people overall (regardless of cause) in a given country/state versus current death rates. It can get complicated because death rates change from year to year with demographics. But it might be the only way to show that there is actually a very small incremental increase in death numbers.

The current method used by many doctors seems to be to attribute any death to Corona even if it only played a minor/non-existent role in the death. This line of thinking needs to be countered with the analysis I am talking about here.

1 posted on 03/29/2020 8:44:30 AM PDT by impimp
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CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 39 million flu illnesses, 400,000 hospitalizations and 24,000 deaths from flu.


2 posted on 03/29/2020 8:47:42 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (It's official! I'm nominated for the 2020 Mr. Hyperbole and Sarcasm Award.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I found a Bible believing church open for live worship today. Took a good long hunt but very happy. Off I go.


3 posted on 03/29/2020 8:49:52 AM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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The other thing I’d like to see is what percentage of people are hospitalized due to the regular flu and what percentage are hospitalized due to Coronavirus-19. If the hospitalization rate is higher with this than that could also overwhelm the system.


4 posted on 03/29/2020 8:51:06 AM PDT by OIFVeteran ( "Liberty and Union, now and forever, one and inseparable!" Daniel Webster)
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To: impimp

Is a flubra some sort of virus resistant thing available from Victorias Secret?


5 posted on 03/29/2020 8:52:48 AM PDT by xp38
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To: impimp
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6 posted on 03/29/2020 8:52:49 AM PDT by BusterDog
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“Is a flubra some sort of virus resistant thing available from Victorias Secret?”

You can make two masks from it, when you find out how real this gets.


7 posted on 03/29/2020 8:56:30 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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As you request, here is exactly the information you are looking for New York City. On an average day 158 people die in NYC. Yesterday 222 died from Covid19 alone. Your theory is that some of those deaths were really from other things, and they were just attributed to Covid19. Your basis for the theory is zero evidence, just something you know because you are smarter than all the doctors. So even if by some miracle no one died from any OTHER cause, and all the other miscellaneous deaths are being attributed to Covid19 by the deep state medical conspiracy or whatever nonsense you believe in, there are still those pesky extra 64 deaths that never happen except yesterday, (and on 9-11-2001 also there were 3,000 extra deaths in one day.)
Please invent a new conspiracy theory, your old one doesn’t work anymore.
Covid19 mortality rate proof from NYC.
NYC had 53,006 deaths from all causes in 2014

NYC had 2,220 deaths from Influenza and Pneumonia in 2014

https://data.cityofnewyork.us/Health/New-York-City-Leading-Causes-of-Death/jb7j-dtam

Another rough estimate for number of deaths in NYC every year,
from Quora - 1 death every 9 minutes, 158 per day, 57,000 per year

https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-die-in-New-York-every-day

So roughly 158 people die in NYC every day and 2220/100 = 22 die every day of influenza and pneumonia assuming a 100 day flu season.
For overall deaths there is very little seasonality. March is 108% of the average death rate for the year.
http://www.legacy.com/news/culture-and-trends/article/yes-its-true-more-people-die-in-january

https://abc7ny.com/6021383/

450 cumulative NYC Covid19 deaths 3-27 at 7pm vs 672 deaths as of 3-28 at 7pm
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-daily-data-summary-deaths.pdf
So there were 222 deaths from Covid19 in NYC in the last 24 hours when the expected number of deaths FROM ALL CAUSES is 158 per day.
If this goes on for a year (which I doubt, since the virus has been contained for example in S. Korea), that would be 81,000 deaths from Covid19 in NYC which normally has
57,000 deaths in a year from all causes


8 posted on 03/29/2020 8:57:39 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

As usual cup size will be critical in such matters.


9 posted on 03/29/2020 8:58:36 AM PDT by xp38
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10 posted on 03/29/2020 9:02:30 AM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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If I don’t want to catch either the flu or this does it make me a flubro?


11 posted on 03/29/2020 9:02:55 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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"Is a flubra some sort of virus resistant thing available from Victorias Secret?"

In keeping with long established practice:

TTIUWOP

12 posted on 03/29/2020 9:04:56 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: impimp

Would this thread be considered a Wuhan viral cluster?


13 posted on 03/29/2020 9:06:20 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: OIFVeteran

that’s a data point yes

I think also that the rush to the hospital might be greater now because of the panic

most people (I think) don’t panic with the flu

they just know that its the flu and they know it will pass


14 posted on 03/29/2020 9:06:21 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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“ As usual cup size will be critical in such matters.”

And the amount of padding...


15 posted on 03/29/2020 9:07:08 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: brookwood

I already saw this when you posted it yesterday. City data is misleading for many reasons - Corona positive people are likely to be treated in a city hospital, inflating deaths. That is why I asked for State or national data. And even some state data will be trash as NJ people will be more likely to be treated in NY.


16 posted on 03/29/2020 9:09:28 AM PDT by impimp
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17 posted on 03/29/2020 9:09:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (NYers fleeing NY are presumed to be infected. They should be quarantined/tested in any other state!)
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To: brookwood

Here are some numbers that no one is disputing. 3.2 million newly unemployed. You psycho paranoids need to reflect on that number for a bit.


18 posted on 03/29/2020 9:11:40 AM PDT by abb
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Your own source that you linked says over 400 deaths per day a few years ago, yet you falsely claim in your post only about 150 people die per day in NYC.


19 posted on 03/29/2020 9:12:48 AM PDT by impimp
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“A few years ago”, that’s not very precise. I’m bored goodbye.


20 posted on 03/29/2020 9:20:04 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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