Posted on 03/28/2020 11:13:33 AM PDT by Mariner
Thread #29 here:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3828913/posts?page=1
Thanks!
You’d be surprised how many people think my name is ‘black angus’.
Not that steak is a bad thing mind you.
Glad to be able to work from home here.
LOL!
Thanks!
Laughs - it is always interesting what the auto-correct within our brain thinks it sees!
T-shirt slogan idea...
I hunkered down in a bunker for 21 days, and “all I got” was this lousy T-shirt!
It’s rolling in so slow here in AZ, that folks are “almost” oblivious to the notion of taking any “personal” mitigation measures.
The insidious nature of the beast, will probably put us in a steep Bell curve incline, in 2-3 weeks from now, which will only exacerbate the problem, because between now and then, more and more people will let their guard down, both spreading the infection and getting the infection. Damned if we do, and damned if we don’t.
We need prophylaxis STAT!
A combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin has been found effective in treating patients with the COVID-19 coronavirus, according to a study conducted by French researchers on 80 cases who recovered from the virus within six days of treatment.
The study was conducted by a team led by Didier Raoult of the IHU-Mediterranee Infection in France.
Out of the 80 patients who received a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, Raoult and his team found a clinical improvement in all but one patient, 86, who died. One 74-year-old patient was still in the ICU at the time the study was published.
Was afraid today would be the day Italy exceeded 10K. :(
‘Don’t come here’: As Mono County nears overload, sheriff urges visitors to stay away
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/dont-come-here-as-mono-county-nears-overload-sheriff-urges-visitors-to-stay-away/
“With eight confirmed coronavirus cases and a hospital with 17 beds and four ventilators, Mono County Sheriff Ingrid Braun said Friday night that officials are nearing their capacity to handle the outbreak and need outsiders to stay away.”
We have been rising steadily all week, from about 50 cases to 750 cases from Saturday to Saturday.
Any NY/NYC updates?
Thanks.
Good job. Sadly, it isn’t going away anytime soon.
We still have a 2 lb bag of carrots, 2 lbs of yellow squash, 3-4 green tomatoes, enough potatoes for a couple meals and 12 lbs of yellow onions (forgot I had onions and bought more the last shopping trip on the 13th). Many onions will end up in the freezer. Planning meals around lifespan of what’s fresh so basically one more week.
To whomever it was who’s sister was sick of canned goods, I opened the first canned good last night - peas to add half the can to a chicken and rice casserole. Rice was leftover from Chinese the night before and used up the last of a previous bag of carrots and an onion. Froze the liquid off the peas to add to pea soup someday. The other half of the peas will be a little pea and cheese salad in a couple days.
Also, boiled the 2 chicken thigh bones for broth for the freezer. The dog was ecstatic over the chicken skin. Added the onion skins to the freezer baggie. The carrot peels were old so threw them onto the small backdoor flower bed. Thinking garlic, onions, cucumbers and greens. I refuse to buy cucumbers and greens at the store these days.
” impose a quarantine in the New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut area”
Waste of time and resources. Look at the JHU map, CV has followed the interstate system around the country. If individual states like Idaho want to try to seal themselves off, it may be worth it. But locking this down is too late.
I’ve been cooking all the fresh veggies & fruits I can find (omelettes, pancakes, soups, etc.) then freezing any leftovers.
I should have written the contents on the containers. What’s for dinner? Chef’s surprise!
NY
Update: March 28, 2020 | 2:55PM
Albany 195
Allegany 2
Broome 23
Cattaraugus 1
Cayuga 2
Chautauqua 5
Chemung 12
Chenango 8
Clinton 12
Columbia 22
Cortland 5
Delaware 8
Dutchess 262
Erie 318
Essex 4
Franklin 4
Fulton 1
Genesee 7
Greene 7
Hamilton 2
Herkimer 9
Jefferson 6
Livingston 5
Madison 19
Monroe 192
Montgomery 5
Nassau 5,537
Niagara 33
New York City 29,766
Oneida 23
Onondaga 129
Ontario 16
Orange 1,101
Orleans 3
Oswego 7
Otsego 7
Putnam 131
Rensselaer 38
Rockland 1,896
Saratoga 96
Schenectady 72
Schoharie 5
Schuyler 1
St. Lawrence 8
Steuben 13
Suffolk 4,138
Sullivan 72
Tioga 4
Tompkins 45
Ulster 128
Warren 13
Washington 6
Wayne 12
Westchester 7,875
Wyoming 7
Total Number of Positive Cases 52,318
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/county-county-breakdown-positive-cases
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Local Hospital ICUs Nearing Limit as COVID-19 Surges in NYC
By Josefa Velasquez, Ann Choi and Yoav Gonen Additonal Reporting By Rachel Holliday Smith
A key, ever-fluctuating variable in the grim daily calculus facing a city racing against time to treat a rising tide of COVID-19 patients is the number of intensive care unit beds available.
On Thursday, in a city of 8.6 million people, that figure was 307.
Some 850 COVID-19 patients occupied ICU beds in hospitals across New York City that day — up from 525 three days earlier.
The state statistics, obtained by THE CITY, revealed stark numbers that underscored the urgent need for additional hospital capacity as more and more people get sick from coronavirus.
The details came to light as medical centers report being overwhelmed, well before the crisis is expected to hit its peak. State and city officials are scrambling to create more medical treatment space everywhere from CUNY campuses to the Javits Center as they press hospitals to increase the stock of critical care beds.
‘A Decisive Moment’
Without a marked increase in resources, the five boroughs are headed in the next eight days “to a decisive moment for the City of New York,” Mayor Bill de Blasio warned late Friday.
A state hospitalization survey obtained by THE CITY shows that of the 2,011 ICU beds in the city Thursday, just 15% remained available amid a surge of incoming patients.
https://thecity.nyc/2020/03/new-york-hospital-icus-nearing-limit-as-covid-19-surges.html
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A 3rd NYPD member dies of coronavirus after hundreds of officers test positive:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/28/us/nypd-coronavirus-deaths/index.html
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/meanwhile-india
Check out the picture of this bus station in India.
“Bolsonaro should try stand-up comedy as his next career—if he survives this”
As an earlier poster noted, he maybe starting with a
Mussolini impression.
Nearly 30,000 positives in NYC alone.
Yes, it’s our Wuhan.
And likely to suffer the same fate.
I am very interested in the virology. The Daily Thread is mostly about the epidemiology which I try to leave to others.
I can interpret the question in two ways:
1) Clinically speaking- What are the doctors seeing as their patients present who are thought to have strong immune systems? Or,
2) Virologically speaking - What is it about this germ that makes otherwise healthy people sick?
Number one I have no business answering.
Number two same probably, but that is the part precisely which fascinates me. Welcoming contradiction and correction from you and all my FRiends here and with no feelings to be hurt by any smackdown, I offer some thoughts.
1) It is a bat coronavirus. It still retains so much of that feature after jumping into us, that it is not making the children sick. A normal immune system can destroy it. (All this panic over-hype, you fearpers!)
2) It is SARS-2. It ought to be as deadly as SARS, and it can cause the dread cytokine storm in some people. An overactive immune system will destroy you!
(You flubros are gonna eat your words in a couple of weeks!)
3) It has a split in the spike protein. This gives it a second infection pathway into the cells and those families, and those individuals who are really good at producing the ACE2 receptors, they are going to get bad sick. (Is there a treatment/vaccine?!)
Justin Lessler, PhD at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg in Baltimore says that the children are asymptomatic carriers of the disease. Junior is going to give it to his grandmother who may very well die. Please tell me that he is wrong if you can. Thanks all!
Thought this to be an interesting "coincidence" of words...
the five boroughs are headed in the next eight days “to a decisive moment for the City of New York,” Mayor Bill de Blasio warned late Friday.
POTUS: I am giving consideration to a QUARANTINE of developing “hot spots”, New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut. A decision will be made, one way or another, shortly.
If herd immunity requires 60% of a given population to have had and survived a virus, OR be vaccinated, 60% of 330,000,000 (US Population) = 198,000,000 will need to have had and survived the virus.
Using one of the lowest CFR (case fatality rate) estimates of 1%, then 1% of 198,000,000 = 1,980,000 US deaths will occur before the US reaches herd immunity levels based on the above numbers and lack of an available vaccination - which may become available in less than 1 year - according to some estimates now.
However, if we don't get our daily deaths/total deaths number down really soon, we will have reached the above long before a vaccine can be made available or even distributed.
No epidemiologist here, just years of experience in deriving useful information from available data. And of course these numbers are subject to change.
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