Posted on 03/27/2020 9:27:41 AM PDT by Mariner
Yesterday's thread here:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3828581/posts?page=1
As I hope you know, "cases" is used to drive a particularly negative portrayal of Trump and his administration's efforts. It's why J Rubin at Wapo wrote her editorial using that basis to claim the US now has the highest number of infected in the world. We know she works as a propagandist, so it's her job to intentionally confuse certain issues by spreading disinformation.
But for some reason FR apparently allows the unidentified sabotage to continue unabated. It's run as a commercial operation, so it most likely needs the controversy, page views and comment volume to remain viable. I just thought it should be more widely recognized by users who might not know otherwise what is occurring.
Yeah, higher numbers of the young hospitalized than I expected.
Maybe it has to do with procedure that I don’t understand.
Tom Winter
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NEW: 85 more people in New York City died since 5pm last night from COVID-19 for a total of 450, the Department of Health announces.
One of those deaths was a civilian member of the NYPD, Giacomina Barr-Brown, who was assigned t the 49th Precinct Roll Call Office.
Data is data.
All data has strengths and weaknesses.
Any data can be misused as propaganda.
Around here we look at all the data, acknowledge its strengths and weaknesses, and analyze using a variety of metrics.
We have been doing this for _weeks_.
Case numbers are one metric—most folks around here know exactly what it does tell us—and what it does not.
The data you know is the only data you have.
All that hot air to illustrate and proclaim that you are the unidentified sabotage.
Oh, meant to mention...
They did say they prioritizing testing of those in hospital. That could skew the numbers.
Dr Birx just said they intend to do testing soon in elderly care places. VERY good news IMO.
Well, we look at, and evaluate, all types of data, on this thread.
As far as the other threads are concerned, I think we still have a good amount of posters who will call out/question any outlandish posts/stats/etc.
If you’re convinced that this site ‘allows the unidentified sabotage to continue unabated’ and, that ‘It’s run as a commercial operation’....keeping in mind that posts do NOT equal clicks, or donations, then you are more than welcome to post excluslively at that .win site.
Your choice.
Take best care.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/howcan-a-poll-of-only-100/
The tl;dr version is: if "cases" weren't dependent on self selection, determination & reporting (of people feeling ill), but rather were a completely random sampling of individuals selected across the country, within regions, within demographic groups, etc, then it *could* be considered a valid statistical reference for those particular queries.
But it's not; imagine a political polling operation that questioned everyone going to a series of Trump rallies. Each day, as they continued to ask people who they were voting fore, the tally number of course would keep rising. Would the proglibs become alarmed? (By this process, not for other obvious reasons.) Why? The questions are being asked of self identified Trump supporters. Duh.
IOW, it isn't an accurate measure of the entire electorate. So too CV cases - the absolute number of 'respondents' is being tallied by different organizations to produce some kind of ratio to infected, resolved, fatal, etc. that fits their particular designed narrative.
I get why they're doing it - they're the self ID'd enemy; it's what they're supposed to do. But to have an ostensibly conservative web site continue to allow this completely - embarrassingly - process error post after post, day after day, really begins to raise questions.
Texas Gov has issued the same.
I’m just wondering how this is even enforced.
“Not nearly as deadly as the flu.”
You are still spreading dangerous lies, Winnie.
So, you’re saying this virus has killed more people than the flu? And you’re calling me a liar? LOL... you guys are sick in the head.
Just a personal note on data in general.
When I was working it was my job to analyze businesses to determine whether or not we should approve loans, for example, on new construction.
We looked at tons of data—population, income, age, employment, occupancy at similar places, financial statements, industry statistics, etc etc etc.
None of that data was fully accurate. All of it had flaws, and it was our job to understand the flaws and figure out way to determine how significant they were, and estimate what the real numbers were.
We _never_ assumed _anyone_ was telling the truth about _anything.
We developed metrics, ways of comparing the data to other data so we could do a “common sense” check of what relationships made sense.
After looking at enough data, we could forecast future occupancy and financial performance within a percent or two, despite everybody lying to us.
People lying about data does not make it useless—it just means you have to work a little harder and be a little smarter.
All they have to do is arrest a few and the rest will start obeying the law.
😂
Thank you!
The poster has a dual objective.
1. Disrupt normal dialog.
2. Inflame passions.
Agent provocateur.
Try this:
It asks for symptoms you are having and assigns a percentage score of symptoms that are consistent with COVID-19.
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