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Flubros are right! Day 8 (Vanity for Flubros only)
www.freerepublic.com ^ | 26 March 2020 | impimp

Posted on 03/26/2020 5:42:10 AM PDT by impimp

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To: crz
"end the hysterians little panic parade and they will have to go and manufacture another panic to grab to."

Agreed. I see they've already started with "the Kung Flu will continue to return in cycles..." messaging. Anything to keep people panicked.

61 posted on 03/26/2020 8:22:42 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: brookwood
Italy, US (net NY), NY & US (total) CV mortality. I think 3/25 has problems - wiki is sometimes a day behind corrections. NY looks to be way understated (271->285), whereas gross US is overstated (670->929).

	Italy	60.5		IT v US		USA-NY	310.9		NY	19.5		NY % of	USA	330.4
Date	Cum Total	% Chg	Daily	Ratio	Date	Cum Total	% Chg	Daily	Cum Total	% Chg	Daily	USA	Cum Total	% Chg
												

3/6/2020	197	33.1%	49	3.6	3/14/2020	54	10.2%	5	2		2	3.6%	56	14.3%
3/7/2020	233	18.3%	36	3.9	3/15/2020	59	9.3%	5	3	50.0%	1	4.8%	62	10.7%
3/8/2020	366	57.1%	133	5.4	3/16/2020	68	15.3%	9	7	133.3%	4	9.3%	75	21.0%
3/9/2020	463	26.5%	97	5.5	3/17/2020	84	23.5%	16	12	71.4%	5	12.5%	96	28.0%
3/10/2020	631	36.3%	168	6.0	3/18/2020	106	26.2%	22	16	33.3%	4	13.1%	122	27.1%
3/11/2020	827	31.1%	196	6.1	3/19/2020	136	28.3%	30	38	137.5%	22	21.8%	174	42.6%
3/12/2020	1,027	24.2%	200	5.6	3/20/2020	183	34.6%	47	46	21.1%	8	20.1%	229	31.6%
3/13/2020	1,266	23.3%	239	5.3	3/21/2020	238	30.1%	55	58	26.1%	12	19.6%	296	29.3%
3/14/2020	1,441	13.8%	175	4.4	3/22/2020	329	38.2%	91	76	31.0%	18	18.8%	405	36.8%
3/15/2020	1,809	25.5%	368	5.0	3/23/2020	359	9.1%	30	157	106.6%	81	30.4%	516	27.4%
3/16/2020	2,158	19.3%	349	5.4	3/24/2020	399	11.1%	40	271	72.6%	114	40.4%	670	29.8%
3/17/2020	2,503	16.0%	345	3.9	3/25/2020	644	61.4%	245	285	5.2%	14	30.7%	929	38.7%

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Italy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States	
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_New_York_(state)	

62 posted on 03/26/2020 8:26:56 AM PDT by semantic
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To: brookwood

I am sure. But you really cannot “put a number” on it yet. We are way too early in this to pin down “meaningful” statistics.

Not pointing at YOU but people are trying to create narratives that simply cannot be made yet. It’s probably bad; people are dying. But trying to project on these numbers is counting raindrops instead of looking for the nature of the storm.


63 posted on 03/26/2020 8:27:29 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: semantic
For the record, I'm neither camp - I just watch the dial.

I'm in the camp that it is a serious virus for those who are at high risk, but that it was released as a coordinated attack to Federalize the EU and destroy Trump.

And I think the FluBronies are funny in their costumery.

64 posted on 03/26/2020 8:29:51 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: glennaro

If you can get someone to kiss your butt these days, make sure you take a video. Monetize that sucker on YouTube. You will be rich and famous. #Covidasskiss

(That is all in jest. The image in my mind was funny.)


65 posted on 03/26/2020 8:31:56 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: brookwood

I don’t see in your post the actual daily death numbers in NYC.

Could you post the actual number per day for the last couple weeks or at the link to where that data would be available?

Thanks.


66 posted on 03/26/2020 8:32:27 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Alberta's Child

Here’s why I’m focused on social distancing, it’s personal. My adult daughter just started a 14 day quarantine because she interacted with her girlfriend whose boyfriend is both a doctor and FluBro. Dr FluBro just returned from Germany, but that didn’t stop these two Stupids from getting together last week. Yesterday, both learned that they are positive. If my daughter was more like me she would have waved to her g/f rather than stop to chat, potential bruised feelings be damned. I hope all goes well, but it’s a case study, for me at least, as to why we’re in deep sushi.


67 posted on 03/26/2020 8:33:57 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_New_York_(state)

Follow link within to NYC.

68 posted on 03/26/2020 8:36:58 AM PDT by semantic
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To: semantic

Worldometer is very up to date. Google it.


69 posted on 03/26/2020 8:40:39 AM PDT by impimp
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To: JonPreston

That’s kind of what I’m thinking about here. I have made it my own personal objective to minimize contact with anyone else. Nobody is more responsible for my well-than I am, and I honestly don’t give a damn what anyone else does to put themselves at risk.


70 posted on 03/26/2020 8:44:00 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I don’t know if the my little ponies theme helps us appear manly and authoritative.


71 posted on 03/26/2020 8:44:15 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Alberta's Child

Sorry — “my well-being” ...


72 posted on 03/26/2020 8:44:44 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: Vermont Lt; wastoute
Italy is starting to exhibit the classic pattern of a top. It's now 5 days off the high, and wandering out up/down on a plateau. Not to say it can't jump again, but each successive flat pattern makes it that much more difficult for the line to climb again due to he sheer volume of numbers/days already recorded. (Some call it the 'law of large numbers'.)

Because NY was distorting US stats, this shows the pattern of US less NY. As we can see, if we peg 8 future days to Italy (they are 8 days ahead of us), then our pattern begins to flatten out as well. Again, key caveat is that NYC might still be growing (rapidly), but this also suggests regionality ie high specificity.


		Italy	60.5		IT v US		USA-NY	310.9	
Day	Date	Cum Total	% Chg	Daily	Ratio	Date	Cum Total	% Chg	Daily
									
1	2/21/2020	1		1	1.0	2/29/2020	1		1

30	3/21/2020	4,825	19.7%	793	3.9	3/29/2020	1,237	19.7%	203
31	3/22/2020	5,475	13.5%	650	3.9	3/30/2020	1,404	13.5%	167
32	3/23/2020	6,077	11.0%	602	3.9	3/31/2020	1,558	11.0%	154
33	3/24/2020	6,820	12.2%	743	3.9	4/1/2020	1,749	12.2%	191
34	3/25/2020	7,503	10.0%	683	3.9	4/2/2020	1,924	10.0%	175
									
	Gross differential				3.9				
	Population differential				5.1				
	Per capita differential				20.0				
									
Growth rate									
26	Days		35.1%					28.2%	
34	Days		30.0%					24.9%	
									
Sources									
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States									
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Italy	

73 posted on 03/26/2020 8:47:31 AM PDT by semantic
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To: Vermont Lt
I appreciate the humor.

And I do recognize I was being insensitive, perhaps even a little cruel to make light of those who are in obvious distress -- frightened, even -- over this Chinese flu ... and for that I apologize to all on this thread. I will try to maintain at least a small measure of somber-ness (if in fact there is such a word) and compassion in my future responses. Even we proud flubros are human that way ... despite that anti-flubros think we are nothing more a collection of potential arse-kissers.

74 posted on 03/26/2020 8:50:58 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: impimp
Why use 2nd, 3rd party, commercial and/or political, when you can rely on OCD autistics to do your data collection for you using actual detailed & comprehensive sources (government reports)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Italy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_New_York_(state)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_New_York_metropolitan_area

75 posted on 03/26/2020 8:52:46 AM PDT by semantic
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To: semantic

Yes but all the data is corrupt as it is tied to regional medical biases. For example - Italian doctors will call the cause of death for a 90 year old with terminal cancer COvid if they test positive. Russian and German doctors don’t. So a big picture step back is sometimes warranted.


76 posted on 03/26/2020 9:08:47 AM PDT by impimp
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To: impimp
While that is certainly true, to what extent we don't know. Is it 1%, 10%, 50%?

OTOH, Italy is 8 days ahead of the US. Germany & Russia don't have similar experiences for the US to accurately track.

So, I take the 8 days as a great leading indicator, with the potential corruption of individual cases with a grain of salt.

The alternative is a larger, more accurate pool of total results, but without the oh so crucial timing element.

77 posted on 03/26/2020 9:53:14 AM PDT by semantic
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To: Alberta's Child

Are you in NYC?


78 posted on 03/26/2020 9:54:39 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: semantic

I believe all countries track pretty much the same in Europe. The only difference among them is reporting styles for cause of death. The reporting style in the USA I think will be less COVID heavy than Italy but our Dem doctors will be more likely to say Corona than Russian and German doctors.


79 posted on 03/26/2020 9:57:17 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Travis McGee

Try posting on the Catholic caucus threads. You will be summarily scolded.


80 posted on 03/26/2020 9:58:57 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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