Posted on 03/25/2020 9:23:43 AM PDT by kiryandil
Scott Adams blows up The System. He explains that celebrities get the hydroxychloroquine/Z-Pak regimen upon demand, and tells the peasants how to get it if they need it.
Key points:
1. A Covid test is $1000, and you wait five days while drowning in your own snot.
2. The hydroxychloroquine/Z-Pak regimen is $20-$50, you may get a case of diarrhea, and the regimen is five days long.
Episode 871 Scott Adams: It's Time to Stop Using an Obama Afghanistan Strategy Against a Virus
https://youtu.be/axDxEeanems?t=1035
Lots of the F-word. Scott is MAD, and he's putting the beatdown on the Elites.
"You gotta bring down the control to the doctor and the patient, and I'm gonna tell you how" starts at https://youtu.be/axDxEeanems?t=1205
Thanks so much for you unceasing efforts at helping us understand this disease. I have been just waiting to see the #new deaths plateau. Haven’t been following actual numbers or other things much.
I can see how it would. Most of the people with LUpus I have seen it has been an incidental thing not the “chief complaint”.
...no benefit worth the risk... What risk? have you ignored multiple people posting they have taken the drug with little or no reaction?
You really fail to see the difference between everyone who lives there doesn’t take them (your fall back) and people in malarial endemic countries don’t take anti-malarial drugs as prophylaxis (your 1st statement)?
After articles about the efforts by the Governments to be sure everyone is taking prophylaxis you persist...Are you Hillary? You are not a scientist that’s for sure.
So the only things we want to know is when does the epidemic really become epidemic (enter the exponential phase). Because we all know that epidemics have three phases, induction, exponential, and recovery. So the most sensitive tool we have that can reveal these inflection points is the “doubling number”. Which is why you see so much “doubling number” instead of micro %ges per day. Frankly, to me that is just a wall of numbers. Maybe you are used to looking at spread sheets full of filled boxes and seeing I or wrinkles in the paper, I a not. I want a graph, with bars or curves.
thank you.
i did some probing of my hmo doctor by PM this past Saturday evening on getting HCQ + Zpack for a relative if the need developed, using arguments somewhat similar to Scott’s, or should i try some other hospital instead. In my case I had the advantage that I actually recall receiving some HCQ for an upcoming visit to a malaria infested area many years ago from the hmo (and i invited my doctor to look it up).
the answer i got back was along the lines of “don’t worry, just see our infectious disease specialist” if/when the need arises. it was not exactly the most encouraging answer possible given that covid-19 does have a definite non-zero mortality rate for those with pre-existing conditions such as my relative.
i have little doubt that what scott said about doctors hoarding some HCQ for themselves and their families is true. i had no side effects when I took it.
However, my HMO does not have the best reputation when it comes to emergency room level treatment for pneumonia symptoms:
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/03/20/san-gabriel-man-dies-not-tested-coronavirus/
so i am developing alternative plans.
:-)
I posted "Apples!", and your "good doctor" jumped on the thread in less than two minutes without viewing the video, and started quacking about "Oranges!".
I'm glad his "Oranges!" are important to him, but the entire thread is about "Apples!", not "Oranges!".
It's about a risk versus benefit scenario, not about "Oranges!".
Risk 1: drowning in your own snot while waiting for a five-day, $1000 test to get back from the bureaucracy, OR
Risk 2: paying $20 to lay hands on the 5-day regimen meds that doctors themselves are securing for them and theirs. You may get diarrhea, BTW. So there is that...
He was informed of this by multiple posters, yet still continues to vent "Oranges!" gas on the thread.
I don't care WHO he is - this thread is NOT about HIS hobbyhorse.
There’s another FR thread about this article. Don’t know if you’ve seen it.
I don’t know how common it is for people to die from lupus, but it looks like lung problems are common.
And deadly. When I was recently back in my hometown in Alabama, my cousin told me that one of my girlfriends from 1967 had died last year. Finally managed to track down her younger sister in a nearby town to give my condolences and find out what happened. Turns out she had Lupus and died from lung and kidney complications.
She was 68.
I liken it to the moon trips.
For Influenza, it may be the seasonal rise in relative humidity, rather than increased air temperature, which impedes spread of the virus. Not because the RH directly affects the virus, but because of the effects of dry air upon the nose, throat, and upper lung tissues making them more susceptible to the flu virus.
The again, the Coronavirus is a different beast—temp and humidity may not have any bearing upon rate of infection.
They have gene selection which reduces the malarial infection rate? Blood disorders which are acute for some carriers of the mutation?
So you think that because people in Venezuela, who don’t even have enough food, also don’t take anti-malarial drugs, that no one else in S.A. does either.
CQ and HCQ are not only used to treat malaria but are also taken prophylactically to prevent catching it in the first place.
Which why many doctors and nurses on the front lines are taking it without having any symptoms.
My Nam vet friends say that they were issued CQ/HCQ the day they got off the plane in Saigon and took them every day until they left.
The way it was explained when I was in Med school long ago was “they must get malaria at an early age” and so their immune system hardly reacts to it. People who live in endemic areas don’t get ill. At least, that was the thinking back then. Since we no longer have malaria it hasn’t been a hot topic of my reading since I took the Boards.
Yes, calling me names has sure convinced me. Thanks!
What does all that text have to do with this disease?
Hydroxychloroquine can cause irregular heartbeat if the patient is on certain other drugs, with which it may interact. See Drugs.com for a list of interactions. An irregular heartbeat in and of itself, may or may not be dangerous; depends upon your heart’s health. It happens to interact with several of my medications, but I would take it anyway, if I were hospitalized, so my heart could be monitored, if it would save my life.
Thalidomide was a new drug. Hydroxychloroqine is not.
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