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Of course the article addresses avaiable beds, not staffed beds.
1 posted on 03/23/2020 3:04:55 AM PDT by buckalfa
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Hospitals (i.e.: hospital design/construction) were never built/designed or meant to handle pandemics.


2 posted on 03/23/2020 3:11:22 AM PDT by cranked
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I don’t understand.

I we’re NOWHERE near 20 percent of the county getting it and and now many states are putting shelter in place into play, why would the numbers get higher for MONTHS??!?!

I can see an initial rise in April still, maybe.

But after that a decline.

The numbers i’ve seen as a result of shelter in place for a few weeks or a month show DRASTIC reductions in numbers.not increases.


3 posted on 03/23/2020 3:16:15 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists my curseoint fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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Our county has no ICU unit. They have an ER unit and 20 beds for overnight observation-if the patient is not gravely ill. The procedure is to stabilize a patient and then transport to St. Louis-almost 2 hrs. away.

The problem is that a bed must be available before St. Louis will accept the transfer, and during flu season beds are often unavailable-so it can be hrs. or days even before the transfer can happen.

If we get the bad stuff here and need a ventilator, we are not likely to get it.


6 posted on 03/23/2020 3:21:59 AM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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More doom and gloom reporting.


11 posted on 03/23/2020 3:42:42 AM PDT by McGruff
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probably not.

PRESIDENT TRUMP has saved the American people
by the air cutoffs and the use of curative medicine
which the CDC(Coronavirus Distribution Center)
and Hillary-AnneMarieSlaughter-Fauci want
taken from Amerians to murder millions.


13 posted on 03/23/2020 3:49:14 AM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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My niece is an ER doctor at a local VA hospital and she said their waiting room is filled with people who "think" they might have it, causing long waits for people who really do have medical issues.

With that being said, she said they have been averaging about one patient per day that needs to be hospitalized.......

She also said that she was quite ill back in early February and was bed ridden for 3 days. She thinks she may have had the virus but it really wasn't identified back then nor were they testing. When she gets time, she's going to be tested to see if she has antibodies for the virus just to relieve her mind......

Her brother is a thoracic surgeon at a local hospital and he is currently sick with the virus and experiencing body ache, slight coughing and minor breathing issues. He caught the virus from his resident who contracted it from a patient they operated on about a week and a half ago....

15 posted on 03/23/2020 3:59:34 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I went to China and all I got was a cheap face mask and a cold)
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“The U.S. may need 1.9 million intensive care unit beds“

China has over 4X our population, worse healthcare, unabated early spread. Did China need 8 million ICU beds?

FEAR-MONGERING


17 posted on 03/23/2020 4:00:44 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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In Georgia, where my wife works in the ER, there are screening stations at all the entrances that scan foreheads for temperatures. If you have a temperature or think you have the virus you must go to the "tent", there they look for signs of Corona, if you do then you go down or are taken down a particular hallway, if you have other needs at the hospital you go down another hallway, or if you don't you take a third hallway to a station where you are advised to go home and shelter in place(the only option there is to exit the hospital).

This initial triage is working wonders, and cutting down the number of beds taken by folks with worries.

This way only folks who show signs of Corona proceed for further Corona examinations and treatments.

Now that the tests are quicker, those who had temperatures, showed signs but did not test positive are sent away from the Corona treatment areas.

Am sure that when the new effective treatments are approved the Corona bed turnover will be much quicker.

This indicates that the right stuff is happening at the hospital and getting better.

21 posted on 03/23/2020 4:20:46 AM PDT by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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I spent two decades of my life basically living in hospitals. I don’t recall ever seeing one with 36% empty beds. They must be counting the hours the room was empty between patients.


22 posted on 03/23/2020 4:28:54 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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...and in every ICU I have been I cannot recall ever seeing an “empty ICU beds”. Usually there are people all over the hospital waiting for one and the nurses on the floors are stressed to provide ICU level care.


24 posted on 03/23/2020 4:30:16 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Here are stats, not speculation the sky is falling and things will get worse as we don’t know:

Apparenty the death rate is declining. Even Fox News can dig up stats. Who knew? Death rate dropped from 4.06% to 1.84% in 7 days, and that was 8 days ago. Could be much lower now.

Even the reality challenged Brit Hume told some truth it seems:

In the fact-challenged world of the coronavirus COVID-19, there are still actual facts out there, and Fox News analyst hit a homer with a single post on Twitter.

“As the number of cases has expanded, the mortality rate has declined. It will likely decline even further if and when those without symptoms can be diagnosed and counted,” Hume tweeted.

He included a tweet from another Twitter user that laid out the death rate in the U.S. from COVID-19.

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases) 3.69% March 9 (26 of 704) 3.01% March 10 (30 of 994) 2.95% March 11 (38 of 1,295) 2.52% March 12 (42 of 1,695) 2.27% March 13 (49 of 2,247) 1.93% March 14 (57 of 2,954) 1.84% March 15 (68 of 3,680)...

4% death rate now below 2%. At this rate the number dead may be below or not much above the death rate from the flu last year of 80,000. It may be.

And stats are better than speculation the sky will fall.


28 posted on 03/23/2020 4:34:38 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clown World Then You Have Spent Too Much Time At The Circus)
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Here are stats, not speculation the sky is falling and things will get worse as we don’t know:

Apparenty the death rate is declining. Even Fox News can dig up stats. Who knew? Death rate dropped from 4.06% to 1.84% in 7 days, and that was 8 days ago. Could be much lower now.

Even the reality challenged Brit Hume told some truth it seems:

In the fact-challenged world of the coronavirus COVID-19, there are still actual facts out there, and Fox News analyst hit a homer with a single post on Twitter.

“As the number of cases has expanded, the mortality rate has declined. It will likely decline even further if and when those without symptoms can be diagnosed and counted,” Hume tweeted.

He included a tweet from another Twitter user that laid out the death rate in the U.S. from COVID-19.

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases) 3.69% March 9 (26 of 704) 3.01% March 10 (30 of 994) 2.95% March 11 (38 of 1,295) 2.52% March 12 (42 of 1,695) 2.27% March 13 (49 of 2,247) 1.93% March 14 (57 of 2,954) 1.84% March 15 (68 of 3,680)...

4% death rate now below 2%. At this rate the number dead may be below or not much above the death rate from the flu last year of 80,000. It may be.

And stats are better than speculation the sky will fall.


29 posted on 03/23/2020 4:34:44 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clown World Then You Have Spent Too Much Time At The Circus)
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Notice the new Johns Hopkins map. It looks like the old one but its different in a few key ways. First it has US counties and large cities. And second, it shows that nearly 80% of all counties in America have at least one case.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

I believe Chinese students went to American and European universities. Then We brought all our kids home. And many of them caught the virus and came home to all these little counties across America.

Hospital beds can be remedied by taking over local hotels. They are mostly empty. Use them for virus patients. It would keep the hospital safer. And they are basically all set up for housing patients.


30 posted on 03/23/2020 4:36:25 AM PDT by poinq
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The article appears to assume every patient infected gets hospitalized. It’s actually a fairly small percentage that needs hospital care.


32 posted on 03/23/2020 4:37:36 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (So Long Obie)
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36% occupancy for a hospital? That hospital would have gone out of business years ago.

I read the article and these numbers are simply not accurate.


33 posted on 03/23/2020 4:40:59 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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My wife is a nurse in York,PA and she says their ER is the slowest she’s ever seen it. No wait times at all.


35 posted on 03/23/2020 4:52:25 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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Not every single person who gets the virus needs a hospital.


36 posted on 03/23/2020 5:05:41 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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The assumption in the article, which is not stated, is what percentage of those infected require hospital care.

The estimate of that number has been falling from 4% to less than 1%, as testing is increased.

It appears the article uses an estimate of about 2%.

37 posted on 03/23/2020 5:22:40 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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“Kaiser?” Tell der Kaiser ets verse dan dat!


39 posted on 03/23/2020 5:46:50 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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NYS needs to stop travel from sanctuary cities to the safe towns, this sanctuary city mess is causing the expansion of this virus.


41 posted on 03/23/2020 5:50:31 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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