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Why the New Dune Movie Could Be a Disaster
The National Interest ^ | March 7, 2020 | James Jay Carafano

Posted on 03/19/2020 8:33:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Dune is destined to be another crashing bore, because the actual characters in the story are not very relatable or likable.

True story. Years ago, even before dudes wanted a Dell, a gaggle of Army generals gathered to ponder how to integrate computers into military operations. One prefaced his prognosticating by admitting to being a “Trekkie,” having grown up watching the 1960s TV-series. He went on to talk about the future of warfare as though they would all be Captain Kirks firing photon torpedoes from the command deck.

Science fiction and the future have a messy relationship. Much science fiction either meditates on the present or mines the past. The technology may be mundane (taken from the pages of Popular Mechanics) or magical (casting aside the laws of physics).

Since it’s often not really about the future, using science fiction to plan the land of tomorrow is life imitating bad art. Yet, good science fiction, like all good fiction, can tell us much. We should not ignore the entire genre.

Which brings us to the new film version of Frank Herbert’s classic 1965 sci-fi novel Dune, slated to come out later this year.

This sprawling story first hit the silver screen in 1984. It was a mind-numbingly bad adaptation. Then came two so-so TV mini-series: Dune (2000) and Children of Dune (2003). The latter was largely inaccessible to those who had not already read the books.

Will Hollywood’s latest try be a hit or a flop? Time will tell if it’s the next Star Wars (1977) or just another Jupiter Ascending (2015).

The makers of this Dune start with a serious advantage. The original book sparked decades of writing by the author, his son and a co-author. At last count there are about 18 books on the Dune universe spanning from when humans started to exploit space travel to their scattering to the ends of the universe. The original Dune book sandwiches somewhere in the middle of the story. Thus, the screenwriters start with the advantage of understanding the whole saga, being able to reflect and foreshadow on everything that ever happens. This would have been like George Lucas starting Star Wars knowing who Luke’s father was.

The history of Dune is particularly important. The past turns out to be a vital driving force in Herbert’s version of science fiction. Technology is a bit player. There are no robots, no computers, and a lot of sword play. That is because of a much earlier event called the Butlerian Jihad, when humans destroyed all the “thinking machines.” No Terminators (1984) here.

The lack of advanced weaponry significantly impacts the nature of governance and war in the Dune universe. Great houses compete for power using weapons of intrigue like spying, disinformation, diplomacy, double-dealing, assassination, and troops that look suspiciously like special forces.

Contemporary audiences may relate more to Dune than Cold War audiences identified with the original novel. The interstellar politics of Dune feel a lot like the geopolitics of our age of “great power competition.”

The environment is also a key component of the Dune mythology. That, too, should resonate given our own debates over climate change.

And, like the world of Dune, everyone is fighting over the great substance that controls the universe. In Dune it’s called the “spice melange”—a drug necessary for space travel that is a billion times more powerful than opioids on steroids. In our world, it’s data. The power that can collect, analyze, manipulate, and exploit the most data is on its way to becoming the master of our universe.

Here is the big disconnect between us and Dune. Our future is inextricably intertwined with technology. Unless the screenwriters can figure out how to bridge that divide, Dune will be no more relatable than the dragons in the Game of Thrones.

In the real world, how we handle technology could dramatically impact the course of great power competition. If those challenges are woven into the film, it might well provoke some serious thinking about our future—making the movie truly great science fiction.

Otherwise, we’ll have to hope it has terrific special effects and a music score equal to what John Williams produced for Star Wars. Lacking that, Dune is destined to be another crashing bore, because the actual characters in the story are not very relatable or likable.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Business/Economy; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: dune; frankherbert; islam; movies; rop; scifi; whatisthisidonteven
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To: nickcarraway

The book sucked and any movie will too.


41 posted on 03/20/2020 3:32:22 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Chickensoup

Roots was eight episodes that aired from January 23-January 30, 1977.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots_(1977_miniseries)


42 posted on 03/20/2020 3:45:57 AM PDT by oldvirginian (I know not what course others may take but as for me Give me Liberty or give me death)
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To: nickcarraway

Dune is my all time favorite book series. I actually liked the 1st movie. Never had opportunity to watch mini series. I have the original comic books from 1st movie. Are they worth anything yet?...lol


43 posted on 03/20/2020 3:49:42 AM PDT by BamaBelle (The storm has arrived!)
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To: nickcarraway
"True story. Years ago, even before dudes wanted a Dell, a gaggle of Army generals gathered to ponder how to integrate computers into military operations. One prefaced his prognosticating by admitting to being a “Trekkie,” having grown up watching the 1960s TV-series." This does not compute. The military had already been using old, rudimentary computers by the time Star Trek had originally aired. A deceased friend had been a USAF computer tech in the early 60s.

I was a Lieutenant in the Big Red One when the first desk tops started showing up in company orderly rooms (286s, possibly 386s, IIRC.) This was in '91. Battalion headquarters and higher echelons were using them before that. As a frame of reference, our Division commander was William Hartzog, born in 1941. He'd have already been in his mid-20s when Star Trek came out.

My only point is that the "True Story" in the opening paragraph seems very unlikely as any officer who enjoyed Star Trek as a kid or even a teen, would not have made general officer ranks until sometime after the Army had already well-integrated computers into military operations.

44 posted on 03/20/2020 4:06:15 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: nickcarraway

One thing that goes unmentioned is that the evil Baron Harkonen is a vile, diseased queer who gets his jollies raping and murdering young male slaves. That isn’t going to fit well with modern Hollywood sensibilities.


45 posted on 03/20/2020 5:20:28 AM PDT by Data Miner
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

My problem w/ adaptations of great fantasy novels like this and Lord Of The Rings is that part of the attraction is the fantasy part. I have a visual image in my mind of what a Hobbit looks like, but the movie creates that for me and then loses my interest.


46 posted on 03/20/2020 5:29:28 AM PDT by Jimmy The Snake (Remeber)
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To: oldvirginian

Or you do it like HP or MCU... have the movies within the franchise break at times what work well dramatically in the novel.

But then there’s the risk of the first one tanking miserably and then there’s no second or third. Dune fans would NOT be happy!


47 posted on 03/20/2020 9:57:45 AM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: Retrofitted

The HP/MCU thing could work if done correctly.
The thing is you would need directors and producers who have actually read the book and appreciate it.

The reason Heinleins Starship Troopers was such a crappy movie was that the director, the Dutch Paul Verhoeven, hated the book so much he never read past the first chapter.
He instead asked someone who had read the book to give him a synopsis and ran with that.
He pursued his distaste of what he saw as right wing militarism instead of the books indictment of society.

Paul Verhoeven preferred blending graphic violence and sexual content with social satire.
Not good for a book written by one of the top writers of his age.


48 posted on 03/20/2020 11:11:00 AM PDT by oldvirginian (I know not what course others may take but as for me Give me Liberty or give me death)
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