Posted on 03/17/2020 8:06:56 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
“not good”
Two of the most popular words around here :)
Ya know, it is what it is.
And it will pass one day.
All folks are doing is giving the powers that be MORE power to take over our lives because of the UTTER FEAR and being Scared like little kids in the dark we are feeding them.
How about starving them a litte.
Cause I got a shock for some of ya.
End of Day ISN’T COMING.
End of Freedom IS
And you won’t be meeting Jesus because of this wore than the flu virus.
You’ll be meeting government troops.
And they won’t be offering an eternity of salvation.
Just what seems like an eternity of suffering.
Probably a majority of them? I would imagine if you are having the cough, fever, headaches that are typical of COVID-19 then they would say “home care”. Only hospitalized for IV’s (hi-dose steroids, etc.) and intubation/ventilator. They say COVID-19 turns into viral pneumonia not bacterial pneumonia so antibiotics won’t help you. At a certain point the intubation/ventilator patients will be on the regular ward as the ICU fills up? Freeper “Gas_dr” may have more on this topic (anesthesiologist needed for an intubation??)
Coronavirus patients ideally should be put in negative pressure rooms to reduce the risk to others. But at least in an ICU, as many of them will require respirators/intubation/ECMO.
I read an article earlier, the Comfort and Mercy are set up for high numbers of trauma patients, not infectious disease. Lots of shared bed spaces. The idea was they would be used to handle trauma cases, freeing up the regular hospitals for the WuFlu cases.
Agreed on what you said specifically about NY, too. There are many. But some of the other states have been focusing more on keeping people calm than finding out how many cases they have. We’ll see if this comment is in the ballpark soon enough.
The article says 19% of the 1,700 cases are "hospitalized". NOT all occupying ICU beds. So of the 323 patients (19% of 1,700), how many are just in regular beds, not ICU, no special care, just being checked on by a nurse occasionally?
That’s so health care executives can by second houses for their third mistress; and so people from all over Latin America can come here illegally and use the ER as a primary care facility.
Somebody posted that 65 are in IC which means that of the 19% that are hospitalize (323) 3.8% (65) are in IC.
If my math is right.
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Maybe at first, but as the more serious cases roll in (intubation/ventilator needed) then those with less severe symptoms will be sent home for home care/quarantine...then hospitals can make even bigger $$$ off ICU type cases. Not going with the "we can make more $$" theory...hospitals average 85-100% occupancy rates during this time of year anyway and are running on razor thin profit margins even at full capacity (2.5%).
“No one is saying it’s “just the flu”, bro.”
Someone on a thread a short while ago called it “a cold that gives some elderly people pneumonia”.
The testing is mainly for implementing restrictions in hot spots to stop the virus from disabling or killing a large portion of the population. That would hurt the economy.
They should Wuhanize NYC now before millions of crazy liberals try to escape their utopia.
Also in the article...
...They estimate the state will need at least 55,000 hospital beds and between 18,600 to 37,200 ICU beds at the peak of the outbreak....
NY has a TOTAL of 53,000 hospital beds and 3,000 ICU beds.
Do the math.
I imagine LOTS of them have escaped....they’ve seen the numbers/averages, for hospital beds.
Prayers, for all.
Yep, but when things get “real”/overcrowded in the ICU can very serious patients go into regular beds/rooms and be intubated/on a ventilator? Italy was re-making surgery suites into quarantine /ventilator rooms due to the demand/crunch.
Technically, a Coronavirus is in fact the cause of many cases of the common cold. Also factual is that for those aged 15 to 44, the fatality rate was 0.5%, though it might have been as low as 0.1% or as high as 1.3%. For people 45 to 64, the fatality rate was also 0.5%, with a possible low of 0.2% and a possible high of 1.1%. For those over 64, it was 2.7%, with a low and high estimate of 1.5% and 4.7%.
The chance of serious illness from coronavirus infection in younger people was so low, the scientists estimate a fatality rate of zero.
Since it’s an upper respiratory disease, the description you cited was pretty accurate, if a bit flippant. I am not saying we should go on as if there’s no danger. Prudent measures are necessary. Burning down the house to kill the termites is not.
Not every patient needs to be in ICU. They can be in normal rooms in isolation. The ones in ICU are the criticals. According to the up-to-date statistics, there are a total of 12 serious or critical current cases nationwide.
It's more likely people are hospitalized for observation as a precaution rather than placed into critical care.
Also, these are statewide numbers not just New York City, so not every patient is going to one hospital.
The lack of demographic statistics causes people to jump to conclusions that may or may not necessarily be true.
And maybe I'm not clued in but this is the first time I've ever heard of "Gothamist" as a source. They may be perfectly legit but I take every article now a days with a grain of salt. Especially so when a simple article requires the input of 3 reporters. But that's just me.
Regards.
state needs money....the first thing they do is tell the drs and hospitals that they can only charge so much....
when our teachers get on average 16%raises in one fell swoop, you know something is not going to balance...its usually the health care dollars although the state will never admit it...
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