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Mortality rate of coronavirus vs seasonal flu (vanity)
3/16/20 | tatown

Posted on 03/17/2020 4:36:45 AM PDT by tatown

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To: pepsionice
I think the missing part of the story is that a segment of society (the pack-a-day smoker, the asthma folks, the COPD crowd, the weakened immune system individuals) are the ones who will require a massive amount of hospital care to survive, and the system (doesn’t matter which country you talk about) isn’t developed enough to handle a huge infected crowd showing up in a short period of time (say 90 days). The rest of us (probably 94-percent of society) will just consider it a serious bout of the flu and spend a week at home recovering.

I think you just noticed the elephant in the room.

The HIV+ crowd must be in a panic, and given the power of the "gay community", this may be a major driving force behind the quarantine.

81 posted on 03/17/2020 5:46:10 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: TigersEye

Not really...CDC can make “in the 95% UI range” estimates...suffice it to say that there are tens of millions of flu/flu caused pneumonia cases per flu season.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/how-cdc-estimates.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html


82 posted on 03/17/2020 5:48:20 AM PDT by Drago
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To: Drago
CDC can make “in the 95% UI range” estimates

Based on no reported numbers except pediatric deaths. Sounds accurate to me. Must be why they get that tight range of 22k to 55k deaths for this year.

83 posted on 03/17/2020 5:50:43 AM PDT by TigersEye (MAGA - 16 more years! - KAG)
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To: dp0622

I trust President Trump


84 posted on 03/17/2020 5:51:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: gas_dr

So using sub-clinical infections for the denominator for Corona virus gives a lower fatality rate that using only clinical cases for the denominator for the seasonal flu.

Makes sense to me...


85 posted on 03/17/2020 5:52:27 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: tatown

Fair enuf, thank you!


86 posted on 03/17/2020 5:53:15 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: gas_dr

What if the cruise ship. Absolute ideal conditions and lest than 1/4 of patients got the disease.

Getting a grip is now impossible. But these are the data


This a nasty bug. I feel for those personally affected by it. But it does society no good if the cure kills the patient.


87 posted on 03/17/2020 5:53:50 AM PDT by lodi90 (flubro)
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To: JonPreston

JonPreston:
You should just sit and watch. You aren’t bright enough to understand this conversation. Most people are as dumb as you, but they’ve at least learned to shut up.


88 posted on 03/17/2020 5:53:55 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: tatown

Where did you get your flu #’s? That looks really low and the flu doesn’t kill 10% of the people who get it


89 posted on 03/17/2020 5:54:33 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: moovova

The virus is not a hoax. That is quite clear.

That understanding, however, doesn’t provide any reason to believe that the various governments and agencies involved are not to some degree interested in depriving citizens of their Constitutional rights (for their own good, of course).

“You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”


90 posted on 03/17/2020 5:54:54 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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To: tatown

tatown:
You’re correct. The hysteria is massively out of proportion.

But, you should acknowledge that seasonal flu is deadly fatal for many people. “No worse than seasonal flu” can still be very bad.

Take care of you old folks.


91 posted on 03/17/2020 5:57:25 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: dp0622

Actually, you’ll just receive thousands of pie graphs and charts and “data” from God knows where showing you how wrong you are.


I was told last month from the cut and paste graphers that all heck was going to break loose in a week. Now here we are nearing three weeks later and little has changed. Except a crashed stock market and cratered economy, of course. Wu Flu will be mostly gone in weeks. But the economic carnage caused by the Wuhan Virus Panic of 2020 will take years to recover from.


92 posted on 03/17/2020 5:58:42 AM PDT by lodi90 (flubro)
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To: hollywood12345
The good news is stupid is not contagious

Oh?

Isn't it spread through public education?

...and air travel via CNN infested airports?

93 posted on 03/17/2020 5:59:15 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: McGruff

That’s .0003% mortality rate for the flu where Corona is 2% in the US.

I think the OP got his numbers from Facebook


94 posted on 03/17/2020 5:59:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: sevinufnine
"My thoughts exactly."

Just nod in agreement, yes this is pretty terrible....

And just continue to quietly improve your position.
This has shown me where some of my weak points are/were - and presently being addressed.

95 posted on 03/17/2020 6:00:35 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again".)
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To: tatown

I never understood why people have so much trouble with math. Number don’t lie. 93 is not greater then 22,000. Unless you want it to.


96 posted on 03/17/2020 6:01:08 AM PDT by McGruff (The most overused word in Corona virus reporting, "could".)
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To: lodi90

I was thinking yesterday NOW is the time to buy stocks if you’re into that because when the market comes back, those folks who do will make a fortune.


97 posted on 03/17/2020 6:01:33 AM PDT by sevinufnine
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To: Solson
It’s not about mortality.

?

What is more life changing that death?

98 posted on 03/17/2020 6:02:48 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: All

Mortality rate, or death rate, is a measure of the number of deaths in a particular population, scaled to the size of that population, per unit of time.

Maybe Infection rate if such a term exists is what people are arguing about.


99 posted on 03/17/2020 6:06:25 AM PDT by McGruff (The most overused word in Corona virus reporting, "could".)
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To: Fresh Wind

I absolutely agree. It’s just difficult trying to winnow out the bad guys from the good guys. Especially with all the static coming from anybody and everybody on the planet that has an internet connection. There are those that want to help...and those that want to subjugate the rest of us. FR is a good microcosm to observe those actions.


100 posted on 03/17/2020 6:08:43 AM PDT by moovova ("Socially distancing myself since forever.")
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