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Oh My. Coronavirus Patient Zero in Italy Reportedly a Pakistani Immigrant
Gateway Pundit ^ | March 7, 2020 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 03/07/2020 6:05:17 PM PST by vladimir998

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To: oldasrocks
I've read a couple of articles about the Pakistani "patient zero" in Italy and neither said a word about how he might have contracted the virus, or if he'd been traveling.

Now some articles are saying he was not patient zero, that patient zero hasn't been identified yet.

Italy Patient Zero

41 posted on 03/08/2020 6:48:45 PM PDT by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: wardaddy

Wardaddy - as I pointed out a week or so ago, this virus does not seem to be limited to people with East Asian genes.


42 posted on 03/09/2020 1:20:49 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Starcitizen

I disagree — the virus seems to spread mostly in colder climates - in hotter places like India, Pakistan, etc. it doesn’t seem that spread. The exception is Iran - but even then the spread is around Qom - the northern part of the country (and I don’t know what’s the temperature there like).

Even in italy, the hot south seems to have no cases at all


43 posted on 03/09/2020 1:51:29 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: StolarStorm; Balding_Eagle

I think there’s no need to panic, but there is every need to take precautions.

I’m in my 40s and I have children below 18 so my precautions are:
1. Ensuring everyone washes their hands regularly - with soap and water.
2. I’m not going overboard with anti-bacterial wipes etc - they are anti-BACTERIAL and can’t help against viruses
3. Not touching our eyes, nose and throat.
4. Daily salt water gargles, neti pot to clean the nose etc.
5. lots of vitamin C and A - overbombarding.
6. A spoonful of honey to soothe throats in the morning

Since it’s lent we’re also on a vegetarian only diet so eating a lot of leafy greens and lentils.

in terms of panic buying - none - we have toilet paper to last 2 months, but we normally have that backup.

The virus won’t last into Summer - the moment hot weather gets here, it will be better.

For older people it is a problem


44 posted on 03/09/2020 2:02:42 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: entropy12

they haven’t had lira since 1999


45 posted on 03/09/2020 2:03:13 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

I never said only orientalists get it

I said they are more likely to get it and more importantly die from it

I realize of course anything racial so offends the sensitive here

Unless I’m generalizing about whites then it’s ok

And I didn’t just make it up

I showed articles

I would also point out that immediately the medal went into overdrive worldwide two ways

Blaming Trump as his Katrina

And saying please please please whatever we do let’s not say anything about this being Asian

Cause that’s stereotyping and bigotry and blah blah blah

Like 9-11

Right away we’re lectured don’t be angry with Muslims

By golly it’s a religion of peace you know

The hysteria over this illness is like nothing I’ve ever seen frankly

Nothing and most of it here is because the media sees every event as a way to destroy our president


46 posted on 03/09/2020 5:29:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: wardaddy

Orientalists = people who study the Orient :)

Orientals I guess you mean :)

Nope, this isn’t about you using the word Oriental - it’s your post that suggested that this is affecting only them - which it isn’t.

“Whites” aren’t genetically the same (neither are all East Asians for that matter) — if you want to say “all whites are susceptible to disease xyz”, that’s also medically incorrect.

If you say Caucasians then you are on a better track - peoples from south asia to ireland have some genetic similarities.


47 posted on 03/09/2020 6:50:53 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: wardaddy

So, 2 months on, does it still seem to you that “orientslists” are more likely to get the virus? Or have you changed your opinion?


48 posted on 05/03/2020 10:38:36 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

I think certain racial groups seem more susceptible

Do you think it’s still the epidemic you doomers said it would be?


49 posted on 05/04/2020 12:43:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: vladimir998

How in the world would they know patient zero with all of the Chinese there everyday working in the garment industry??


50 posted on 05/04/2020 12:46:04 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: vladimir998

Yeah OK say it was a Pakistan man and NOT the woman working in the lab!! Those PESKY Chinese have blamed it on so many different sources who the hell believes them anyway!!


51 posted on 05/04/2020 12:49:21 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: wardaddy

It would be interesting to see which racial groups are more susceptible.

I don’t agree with the view that “blacks” are more at risk just for being “black” - that’s the NY times view, but it forgets that most black people in the USA have higher obesity levels, are more likely to live in cramped urban areas and have higher diabeties issues - so it’s difficult to remove that from the “race” issue.

As to East Asians or Mongoloid people, they seem to have lower rates in terms of country vs country, but within the USA it’s not possible to differentiate for the same reason - they have lower rates of obesity, diabetes and high blood pressure compared to “whites” or “blacks”.

When I’m looking at the data for Western Europe I don’t see a “racial” pattern at all:
Why is Spain hit so badly but Portugal isn’t?
Why is northern, richer Italy hit so badly while poorer, more genetically diverse Sicily isn’t?

It’s puzzling.

As to “Do you think it’s still the epidemic you said it would be?”
—> Yes, yes it is.

And for this I compare Swedish death rates versus Denmark+Norway. Sweden has thrice the number of deaths.

If there hadn’t been a lockdown, the death rate would have been higher. How much higher - let’s take the Swedish example as 3 times higher - so 210K now

Is this the time to lift restrictions? Yes, for non-urban parts of the country yes.

What about urban, high-density areas? In limited areas, with tracking, yes.


52 posted on 05/04/2020 1:16:36 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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