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Origins Of The Black Death Traced Back To China, Gene Sequencing Has Revealed; A Plague That Killed Over a Third of Europe's Population
Medical News Today ^

Posted on 02/27/2020 9:06:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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41 posted on 02/27/2020 12:00:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: C19fan

The plague was carried by fleas.


42 posted on 02/27/2020 12:01:37 PM PST by SanchoP (DC is the deep state.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Escaped from a Ming Dynasty bio-weapons facility


43 posted on 02/27/2020 12:32:24 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

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44 posted on 02/27/2020 1:32:46 PM PST by sauropod (David Horowitz: “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out.”)
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To: Darth Gill

So flower children existed back then


45 posted on 02/27/2020 3:31:48 PM PST by Redcitizen (Nobody needs a 10 round magazine. You need a 30 round magazine.)
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To: Sam Gamgee

I thought your ancestors were Hobbits? :)


46 posted on 02/27/2020 3:33:21 PM PST by Redcitizen (Nobody needs a 10 round magazine. You need a 30 round magazine.)
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To: wardaddy

“A marmot ate my back pack”

If this does not achieve a legendary status similar to “A moose bit my sister”, I’m going to be very disappointed.


47 posted on 02/27/2020 7:44:02 PM PST by Salamander (Living On The Ledge....)
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To: Salamander; Pelham

A jansport ruck

Back in the days of huge Kelty frame packs

A snug ruck with a nice reinforced belt was a climbers pack

Wind howled up on that exposed face all night so we didn’t hear it

I got up and looked at my pack belt and damn critter had eaten the friggn belt

No idea why

I had to rig my regular belt

We went up into Waterton Lakes and on to Calgary before we tackled Mt Assinboine and I got a shoe repair to make another belt

Of course back then I was Marley 24/7 you can imagine ..

43 years ago

Now I drive around glacier or bitteroots with my kids....day hikes...snug best westerns or lodges at night

Roughing it

We use to hike 5-7 nights minimum 15 miles a day...elevation gains of several 1000 feet a day minimum

Not enough nitro in the world for thanks..lol


48 posted on 02/27/2020 11:15:16 PM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: BenLurkin
I always suspected those Ming dynasts. :^)

49 posted on 02/28/2020 8:33:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Salamander; wardaddy
You're right. It is legendary. The best memes happen by serendipity.

“A marmot ate my back pack”


50 posted on 02/28/2020 10:27:12 AM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: Salamander

on another front, snek news:

https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1233312053634289664


51 posted on 02/28/2020 1:19:36 PM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the biggest thing is diet. The Chinese eat the most obviously revolting no-no crap (bat soup, snakes, etc.) you’d ever want to eat, and then undercook it - things any sensible person wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole.


52 posted on 02/28/2020 2:03:32 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: SeekAndFind
I am just wondering... what is it about China that makes it susceptible to viral and bacterial outbreaks?

You want the real answer or the PC answer?

53 posted on 02/28/2020 2:25:13 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Approximately 50% of China’s population perished, while Europe’s went down by a third and Africa by an eighth.

Travel, travel, travel. What we take from this is the importance of restricting travel especially at the first sign of plague. China, where these plagues often originate because of an unwholesome diet, is the largest country and has the greatest number of people moving about relatively freely, thereby exposing the greatest number of other people to their unique regional contagious maladies, is always hit hardest. Europe, at least historically, has less exposure. And Africa least of all, because not even Africans travel in Africa (again I'm talking historically) unless they want to lose their heads. All of which proves Trump is right to want to restrict travel, and democrats are traitors to want to open it up.

54 posted on 02/28/2020 2:26:47 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

RE: You want the real answer or the PC answer?

The former of course. The latter only avoids the truth so as not to hurt the feelings of the uber sensitive.


55 posted on 02/28/2020 3:43:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind
China tends to have a bunch of people that live in very close proximity to each other and the lower classes tend to live with their animals especially pigs. Pigs are close enough to us that we can infect each other. Pig gets sick, human gets sick from the pig who then gets sick from the human next thing you know you have a pandemic. In the west pigs were kept outside, many times out in the woods. The chance that you would catch something was much lower.

The poor tend not to have cats to keep the rodent population down which is the vector for many diseases.

Fuel is in short supply so they tend to cook their food for short periods of time which tends not to kill any bacteria. That is also why the poor live with their animals in the house. It keeps the house warmer and the animals alive during the winter.

There is the fact that the Chinese tend to eat "wild meat". While in the West eating a reptile means that you are down to your last options in China it is actually a symbol of status. This was because of the restrictions on hunting. There is also the idea that eating the parts of certain animals, the rarer the better, will cure what ails you. The guys eat a bunch of crap to improve their bed room antics.

Beef and lamb which are probably the safest foods to eat were rarely eaten by the Chinese as cows and sheep were in short supply.

The Chinese also did not have a tradition of charity. The poor were left to rot. It was their fate to suffer and die so they could be re-born in better circumstances or they were being punished for bad behavior in a past life. In either case you did not want to interfere.

Lack of soap. Soap was not popular in China. They preferred creams to soap to clean the skin. Left your skin nice and soft but did not kill any bacteria.

So you have a bunch of people and animals crowded together, a lack of totally cooked food, lack of rodent control and the eating of foods that are disease reservoirs, a lack of any charity and a lack of cleanliness.

The end results are generally not good.

56 posted on 02/28/2020 4:40:07 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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