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The ‘Dating Market’ Is Getting Worse: The old but newly popular notion that one’s love life can be analyzed like an economy is flawed—and it’s ruining romance.
The Atlantic ^ | February 25, 2020 | Ashley Fetters and Kaitlyn Tiffany

Posted on 02/26/2020 6:02:27 AM PST by C19fan

Ever since her last relationship ended this past August, Liz has been consciously trying not to treat dating as a “numbers game.” By the 30-year-old Alaskan’s own admission, however, it hasn’t been going great.

Liz has been going on Tinder dates frequently, sometimes multiple times a week—one of her New Year’s resolutions was to go on every date she was invited on. But Liz, who asked to be identified only by her first name in order to avoid harassment, can’t escape a feeling of impersonal, businesslike detachment from the whole pursuit.

“It’s like, ‘If this doesn’t go well, there are 20 other guys who look like you in my inbox.’ And I’m sure they feel the same way—that there are 20 other girls who are willing to hang out, or whatever,” she said. “People are seen as commodities, as opposed to individuals.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: dating; economics; love; marriage; materialism; men; pua; redpill; romance; woman; women
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To: Nothingburger

Reddit red pill was made for guys like you.

It is a game. You can win if you know the rules and practice, practice, practice.


41 posted on 02/26/2020 7:52:32 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: grey_whiskers

I have not seen that particular graphic before, but I am quite familiar with the concept behind it. Thank you for posting it.

Hypergamy rules.


42 posted on 02/26/2020 8:02:44 AM PST by Nothingburger
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To: grey_whiskers
Why don't you older women tell the younger ones to stop slutting around?

You older women? Lady Jane is an older woman? LOL

Have you ever read the book, "How to make friends and influence people"?

43 posted on 02/26/2020 8:06:39 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: C19fan

Tinder is not dating. It is hookup for sex. That, today, is called a relationship.

What do you expect to find? idiot! Instead of an algorithm, meet people at your church, where you work, where you play.


44 posted on 02/26/2020 8:08:09 AM PST by I want the USA back (We have sunk to a depth where restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men:Orwell)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

The second thing they learn is if there is a man in their age group, good job, fairly good looking, a good prospect for marriage, he is not interested in her. He is interested in the young 22 year old version of her. Even men much older then her will be looking for someone in their low 20s and will find plenty of young things to date.

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If you think that 22-28 year olds are dating and marrying, you are mistaken. Many of them do not even understand the concept of dating.

Our culture and schools have taught the children hedonism and how not to reproduce.


45 posted on 02/26/2020 8:09:07 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: ladyjane
Huh. Usually anyone who acts pecksniffian with me is...more mature.

OK, why don't you influence your peers then? :-D

46 posted on 02/26/2020 8:11:12 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: JohnnyP

“Have you watched Coach Greg Adams?”

He’s good...”monkey double back flips”.

I also suggest Better Bachelor. He and Coach Greg complement each other.


47 posted on 02/26/2020 8:20:40 AM PST by twoputt
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To: Chickensoup

If you think that 22-28 year olds are dating and marrying, you are mistaken. Many of them do not even understand the concept of dating.


Let me make it clearer. 18 to 28 is the range a woman has to find and marry (a “good” man”) My point (the same as yours) is that many young woman are using those years for their careers and to have a good time rather than get married and raising a family.

By the time they approach 30 they are discovering they missed out on the best years to find a man, get married and have a family.

When China had the one child per couple law it had unintended consequences. Females were aborted so their one child would be a male. In time there became an imbalance of more males then females.

Feminist created something that also resulted in an imbalance. By favoring females colleges have been producing more woman with degrees then men. The unintended consequences of this is that there are fewer “quality” men available for marriage. A recent study shows that woman want to marry UP and few are interested in someone lower on the career ladder then themselves. This has also resulted in more divorces between couples when the wife is promoted to a level higher than the husband.

Feminist fought for a change in our culture without understanding human nature. They won the battle but they have lost the war.


48 posted on 02/26/2020 8:22:45 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: oldplayer

I recommend every man and teenage boy read “Rational Male”. And I think women would also benefit from reading the book.

I wish this was available decades ago before I started dating.


49 posted on 02/26/2020 8:24:57 AM PST by twoputt
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To: C19fan

Most people would be better off staying in a church, and just waiting for the right guy or girl to come along that has agreement with them on what they believe. I don’t understand dating apps or anything like that. Who wants to go out with a stranger?


50 posted on 02/26/2020 8:29:21 AM PST by Darth Gill
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To: usconservative
What more could a 57-year-old guy like me ask for at this stage in my life? [...] I'm glad however that I found this wonderful woman.

And her age, if I may ask?

Regards,

51 posted on 02/26/2020 8:30:12 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Lou L

My experience is that women in their 30s are for the most part in “oh chit, I need to get a man” mode and are looking to settle.....looking to settle with guys they previously would have turned down and looking to settle with guys they probably don’t really want. That’s a big part of why a lot of guys don’t want them. Who wants to be in a marriage with somebody who doesn’t really want you?


52 posted on 02/26/2020 9:27:35 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Yes, to all of this. I’m a little more slack and tolerant than you. I’ll give them up to 30 instead of up to 28, but everything you described is absolutely true.


53 posted on 02/26/2020 9:29:27 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: grey_whiskers

I’ve seen this many, many, many times.

The ones who really come in for a rough time are those who try to circle back around to the very same guys they rejected in their 20s. Payback’s a beyotch and they often get it....and are absolutely shocked to learn seemingly for the first time in their lives that choice is not a one way street.


54 posted on 02/26/2020 9:31:18 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

Only marry a woman if she has the tingles for you.


55 posted on 02/26/2020 9:32:58 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: alexander_busek
And her age, if I may ask?

She's 59, a few years ahead of me. You'd never guess looking at her, she looks way younger and she takes excellent care of herself.

I'll tell you upfront that early on after getting divorced I had a few mid-forties women approach me and honestly I wanted nothing to do with them. They still had kids at home and were looking for someone to "rescue" them and I wanted nothing to do with that.

I learned early on to set the criteria I was looking for and stick to it. The learning curve at this age is steep and you have to learn quickly else you get caught up in someone else's drama.

56 posted on 02/26/2020 9:47:13 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: grey_whiskers
Only marry a woman if she has the tingles for you.

If she has the tingles, she better see a doctor and you better protect yourself.

57 posted on 02/26/2020 9:47:54 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: FLT-bird
My experience is that women in their 30s are for the most part in “oh chit, I need to get a man” mode and are looking to settle....

It's worse for women in their 40's and 50's especially as the number of eligible men decrease (death, giving up on women.)

It's sad. It really is. Some of the behavior I've seen is just so sad. If I were a lesser person (I'm not today, tomorrow I may be .... ) I'd be writing jokes about it on this thread. I just can't do it.

58 posted on 02/26/2020 9:55:05 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
I knew a woman at work a few years back; upper 30's, divorced, with two pre-teen girls (around age 10-12?).

One of her friends was trying to set her up with a 40ish never-married guy who had his own business and $500k in the bank.

Talk about entitlement / wishful thinking / hypergamy!

Women need to talk to other women realistically about their prospects instead of sabotaging each other.

But Yellowtail Wine, Litter Boxes, and Misery, love company, I guess.

59 posted on 02/26/2020 10:09:29 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
One of her friends was trying to set her up with a 40ish never-married guy who had his own business and $500k in the bank.

Not uncommon at all from what I've seen. Happened more than I can recall. To me and to friends. I didn't fall for it. I'm realistic about who I am, my age, what I look like, how I present myself, etc. One divorced friend just has this way about him that he routinely attracts women 15-20 years younger than he is. I don't get it, I really don't. Every time he gets take advantage of and every time he falls for it. I dunno, maybe they seen SUCKER written on his face?

60 posted on 02/26/2020 10:15:25 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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