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1 posted on 02/25/2020 10:49:58 AM PST by DouglasKC
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According to this, in 2016, 80,000 died from the flu. There were 900,000 hospitalized. That is about a 9% death rate. However, it is reasonable to assume that the vast majority of cases are not reported. But if there were 3,600,000 cases of the flu that year, that would be a 2.25% death rate.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/health/flu-deaths-2017—2018-cdc-bn/index.html


41 posted on 02/25/2020 11:03:02 AM PST by DennisR (Look around. God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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Look at the data for the death rate OUTSIDE of Hubei. The panic mongers want to ignore that fact for some reason:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

South Korea, 10 deaths out of 977.
Cruise ship 3 out of 691.
Japan 1 out 170.

There are clowns here who desperately want the end of the world. These are the same idiots who wish-cast Category 5 hurricanes and blizzards right on their own houses in the weather forums.

We really don’t have all the facts, and the data doesn’t support the “OH NOES WE ARE ALL DOOMEZ” mantra from a certain segment of the population who really, really hate President Trump and want to see him defeated because they would rather have a magic underpants in charge.


43 posted on 02/25/2020 11:03:40 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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and those stats do not count the death from re-infection - of which the Chinese do not count but is usually fatal.


44 posted on 02/25/2020 11:04:01 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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I think Rush has better access to “real” numbers than all of us. I don’t trust anything our media puts out there nor anything China is releasing either. I’m gonna go with Rush on this.


45 posted on 02/25/2020 11:04:22 AM PST by PLOM...NOT! (With guns, we are citizens. Without them, we are subjects.)
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Rush is wrong, however the numbers you used...”2 (the number of deaths) divided by 100,000 = .00002, or .002%” are for the U.S. not the world.


47 posted on 02/25/2020 11:04:44 AM PST by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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One thing is for sure. The MSM is hoping and praying this becomes a pandemic in America so they can blame Trump for it. That is something we all agree on!


52 posted on 02/25/2020 11:06:41 AM PST by dowcaet
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There is actually no way to tell how many flu cases there are each year. I have never gone to the doctor for the flu and have never reported it to the CDC. So the only figures that are realistic are deaths (as determined by a coroner) and hospitalizations (if reported).


55 posted on 02/25/2020 11:07:25 AM PST by DennisR (Look around. God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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You are wrong too. The 2/100000 is total population. The final figure for the new virus is hard to estimate, since it is so early in the infection curve. Many may be being exposed and not diagnosed because they have mild cases. Bottom line it is way to soon to be speculating about the death rate/case, but it is not 1000x worse than flu, nor is it likely to be less than the flu. In fact since it is a new virus it most likely will be higher since there is no immunity in the population.


56 posted on 02/25/2020 11:07:41 AM PST by muskah
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False

Current world wide death tool for Cronavirus is less then 2711

You drama queens with your infantile histrionics should stop with your chick little BS

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


60 posted on 02/25/2020 11:10:29 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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“flu can kill up to 80,000 americans in a year. But that’s only because there’s a LOT more people infected with various flu viruses.”

So...big picture, which one is more dangerous? (so far)

?


61 posted on 02/25/2020 11:10:30 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE (I'm)
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Yep. His 99.8% accuracy just went down. He needs to get off his claim.


63 posted on 02/25/2020 11:10:42 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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I have a “wait and see” attitude about this.

How many on the Japanese cruise ship died? How many of the 14 infected Americans brought back have died? My understanding is that none of them have died. We’ll see.


65 posted on 02/25/2020 11:11:35 AM PST by conservativepoet
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You’re not the guy that just called him on the air about this are you? Ugh...he took so long to get to the point.


67 posted on 02/25/2020 11:12:36 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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Not saying your are right or wrong, but please note that the CDC info is for US death rate ONLY. The so-called 2% is a worldwide estimate primarily driven by false info from China.

My primary caution on deriving ANY conclusions is that the comparable death rate from Corona virus in the US is frankly unknown (not enough cases to make a statistically significant guess.) Regardless, however, the Corona Virus death rate is highly likely to be significantly less that the world-wide rate primarily because of the state of medical care in the US (best in the world.)

So Rush may be right ... or he may be wrong on the death rate; but he is right that the problem in the US is not the virus, it is the way the media are using it to undermine our President.

73 posted on 02/25/2020 11:13:43 AM PST by Dimples
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A Timeline of Media-Inflamed Fears (2000-2017)

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/timeline-media-inflamed-fears-2000-2017/


77 posted on 02/25/2020 11:17:05 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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Rush is right! More people are dying and being hospitalized from influenza A & B! Yiu can spin Coronavirus all you want, IT IS NO A PANDEMIC!

This type of hysteria is custom made for the Left, and you freaking idiots are lapping it up!

Sad what FR is becoming!


82 posted on 02/25/2020 11:19:05 AM PST by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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Here are some other flu mortality rates:
Wuhan Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) 2%*
SARS 9.6%
MERS 34%
Swine Flu 0.02%
My brother in chemo got MERS and it killed I\him in a week.

Interestingly AIDS/HIV mortality rate is 1.7% (CDC)

Rush is wrong but the lethality of this one is not as high as SARS and MERS, and they have been controlled. I think the problem with this one it can be transmitted by people without symptoms. Therefore it’s hard to control.


93 posted on 02/25/2020 11:27:52 AM PST by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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IMHO, there is no way that the Corona virus is not already here. Too many people traveled to China and back to the U.S. in December. We have most likely already been dealing with it in our health system - people with flu and pneumonia. Except in two places in the U.S., we can’t even test for it - the CDC kits are faulty. So we have no way of knowing it is not here. Since most cases are mild (and people don’t even know they have it) I think the % of deaths are being overstated because the % of cases are being understated, even though we can never trust China to tell the truth. That being said, especially if you are over 80 and contract it, the effects are gruesome.


94 posted on 02/25/2020 11:29:39 AM PST by RedMominBlueState
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The stock market is down 1500.
Rush is purposely trying to calm the panic.


95 posted on 02/25/2020 11:31:12 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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the death rate in japan is 0% from the corona virus.

more people have died from the flu than the corona virus so far. time will tell.


97 posted on 02/25/2020 11:32:22 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world)
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