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'I brainwashed myself with the internet': Nearly 45 weeks pregnant, she wanted a "freebirth" with no doctors. Online groups convinced her it would be OK.
NBC News ^ | February 21, 2020 | Brandy Zadrozny

Posted on 02/24/2020 8:25:48 AM PST by C19fan

By February 2019, Judith had become unbearably anxious. The 28-year-old Pacific coast native’s due date had come and gone. Just two days shy of 45 weeks pregnant, her belly was stretched so far that it shined, her body was swollen, and nearly everything — from her toes to her hair — ached.

For women who haven’t gone into labor by 42 weeks, just about every medical and birth professional recommends induction — a jump-start to labor from medicines that ripen the cervix or contract the uterus. But Judith, an artist and freethinker who believes in “all that hippy jazz,” had a different kind of birth plan — one that dismissed medical recommendations and relied on nature and intuition, that rejected a sterile hospital for a warm pool in her own home and that avoided doctors and midwives. Instead, Judith wanted to be with only her husband and her closest friend, a plan known as freebirth, or unassisted birth, by the tiny subculture of women who practice it.

Judith couldn’t tell many people about that plan — her husband was supportive, but most of her other family and friends would understandably worry. Instead, Judith, who asked that her full name not be published, spent the last several months of her pregnancy immersed in online spaces where women celebrated her decision and offered support and tips. Private Facebook groups, Instagram accounts, podcasts and online courses had taught Judith everything she thought she needed to know about how her baby would come into the world.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; History; Society
KEYWORDS: childbirth; pregnancy; women
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People who have success at 18th century birth reenactments, are fortunate. My niece tried it and after a pretty long time going through labor they relented and went to the hospital and got severely scolded by the doctors because that baby was in the birth canal way too long. Thank God everything is okay and that’s when I came up with the re-enactment phraseology.

Why would anybody want to re-enact a birthing procedure that’s a couple of hundred years old maybe more when they have the finest medical Medical Care on Earth to have a successful delivery of a healthy child? They are hazarding the birth process if they’re not so fortunate.


21 posted on 02/24/2020 9:03:14 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: C19fan

It was a 5-10% chance with every birth, though the greatest risk was the first.


22 posted on 02/24/2020 9:04:26 AM PST by tbw2
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To: C19fan

Dumbed down society. Very possible avoidable tragedy. Sad error in judgement.


23 posted on 02/24/2020 9:10:29 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: C19fan
While she listened, Judith would daydream, imagining herself as a future guest on the [freebirth] podcast. “I became obsessed,” Judith said. “I would just wonder, ‘What's my story going to be like?’ and think, ‘I want my story to be as badass as their stories.’”

Oh, my word. What a loon. Unforced error — trying to be a dramatic heroine of childbirth, on her body's first try.

24 posted on 02/24/2020 9:12:14 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Party that freed sIaves, passed Civil Rights is called racist by the party that started the KKK.)
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To: C19fan
“Women can get advice on whether to see a doctor anywhere else, but they go to that [online] space specifically, to not get bombarded with negative comments,” Judith said. “You don't want to fill your head with anything that you don't want.”

Things go full circle. This reminds me of a "male chauvinist" saying from before the femnazi movement of the 1960s to dismiss a woman's concerns or interests that were considered "unfeminine": "Don't bother your pretty little head with things like that!" Second-wave feminists were incensed about that saying. Now these radical hippy feminists are reviving it.

25 posted on 02/24/2020 9:47:08 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Party that freed sIaves, passed Civil Rights is called racist by the party that started the KKK.)
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To: Albion Wilde
imagining herself as a future guest on the podcast. “I became obsessed,” Judith said. “I would just wonder, ‘What's my story going to be like?’ and think, ‘I want my story to be as badass as their stories.’”

There's the problem, thinking motherhood is all about her.

26 posted on 02/24/2020 9:47:31 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: ConservativeMind
I have a friend who gave birth home in a large tub with a midwife present.

For my second pregnancy, I went to a small, specialty maternity-only hospital that used midwives to monitor labor, with doctors available if needed during labor, and doctors to facilitate the delivery.

I had the most annoying midwife and threw her out of the room. You had your own OB-GYN but didn't get to choose your midwife; you took the one(s) assigned to you whose shift corresponded with your labor. Mine was aggressive, dictatorial, and looked masculine.

I re-lived that horrible experience while reading this article. Not hard to imagine that this is what socialized medicine would be like for all types of procedures.

27 posted on 02/24/2020 10:03:51 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Party that freed sIaves, passed Civil Rights is called racist by the party that started the KKK.)
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To: rlmorel
(I won’t even mention what they did with the placenta)

Many of those crazed femhippies make soup out of it, in spite of being strident vegans the rest of the time.

28 posted on 02/24/2020 10:05:45 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Party that freed sIaves, passed Civil Rights is called racist by the party that started the KKK.)
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To: Clutch Martin

$$$? Birth in a US hospital costs on average $15,800 for a C-section and $9,600 for a vaginal birth.

https://www.webmd.com/baby/features/cost-of-having-a-baby#1

The health care is too d—n high!


29 posted on 02/24/2020 10:09:24 AM PST by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
every woman has 10,000 generations of "foremothers" behind her who manifestly did it tolerably well.,p>But she may also have aunts who didn't do it well, or foremothers who died in childbirth but the baby survived. I am one of the latter, and never got to know one grandmother and one great-grandmother.
30 posted on 02/24/2020 10:11:19 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Party that freed sIaves, passed Civil Rights is called racist by the party that started the KKK.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Sort of like the hippy scum of the sixties who resurrected astrology as "fact." Catchy song, though. "This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius.."

I guess they didn't know it had "dawned" eons ago and was discredited when man discovered Earth was not the center, etc.

31 posted on 02/24/2020 10:11:30 AM PST by LouAvul ("Little by little, the look of the country changes because of the men we admire.")
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To: Getready
Dumbed down society.

A lot of them are on FR. Some are even on this thread.

32 posted on 02/24/2020 10:13:06 AM PST by LouAvul ("Little by little, the look of the country changes because of the men we admire.")
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To: Jeff Chandler
You should watch "South Main Street Auto"....

Actually have learned some things from him...Wish he lived near me,,instead of N.Y.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nk1W0YjqJo

33 posted on 02/24/2020 10:18:46 AM PST by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: beef

Why would you bring gender into this? Last time I checked idiocy was found in both sexes. Your post only makes sense if by “a lot of women” you mean “a few radfem whackjobs”.


34 posted on 02/24/2020 10:19:12 AM PST by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I agree.


35 posted on 02/24/2020 10:21:42 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child who's got his own." - Billie Holliday)
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To: beef

Actually, the history of childbirth is a lot more complicated than that.

Many women died in childbirth or soon after from the beginning of time. When they began to give birth in hospitals - staffed by men - the mortality rate was worse than if they stayed at home. The reason was what they called childbed fever. No one knew about bacterial infections in those days. In fact, the whole germ theory of infection was unknown.

A man by the name of Ignaz Semmelweis began a program of having the physicians scrub their hands before treating the next patient. Of course, the physicians hated him for suggesting they were causing the fever and got him fired!!

https://www.upworthy.com/women-were-dying-from-childbirth-at-hospitals-this-19th-century-doctor-figured-out-why


36 posted on 02/24/2020 10:26:53 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: C19fan

I wonder why an autopsy wasn’t performed on the baby. The article doesn’t say, just that one wasn’t done.


37 posted on 02/24/2020 10:27:07 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: ConservativeMind
Your friend had a midwife.

This person only had her husband and a "friend" neither which had any medical training.

38 posted on 02/24/2020 10:32:31 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
And really, do we have to watch you unscrew and remove every single bolt?

That I do not complain about.

Watched one where he just told you to remove the bolts, what he did not tell you was that there were not four bolts in plain view but five bolts, and the fifth was hidden in a spot you needed a flashlight and a special tool to reach.

Much fun was had by all.

39 posted on 02/24/2020 10:35:53 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: C19fan

The placenta begins to deteriorate at just over 40 weeks and usually by week 42, it’s shot and that’s why they induce and don’t let women go past that date.

I had a friend whose placenta quit early and she went the full 40 weeks, not knowing what was happening, and lost the baby. They didn’t know until after the birth when they tested the placenta that it was no longer functioning.

It was heartbreaking.

This woman has no one to blame but herself for where she is.

Bodies don’t always work right and based on what I have learned over a long enough life, trusting your *instincts* is NEVER reliable.


40 posted on 02/24/2020 10:52:03 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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