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To: DariusBane

If lefties like Woodrow Wilson had not forced the downfall of the Hapsburg Empire as a major result of WW1, would there have been a WW2? IDK, just throwing the question out there.


27 posted on 02/23/2020 4:27:21 PM PST by Stingray51
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To: Stingray51
Wilson was a naive, stupid little man, whom the Brits and French took advantage of, in Paris, in 1919.

It was the Treaty of Versailles which made not only WW II inevitable, but also set the stage for almost every single other war/conflict, through today! Granted, Wilson's crappy call for world wide Manifest Destiny didn't help matters any, vis-a-vis influencing people like Ho Chi Minh, who was actually in Paris at that time, working at a menial job.

A great book about all of this history is "PARIS 1919:SIX MONTHS THAT CHANGED THE WORLD", by Margaret MacMillan.

28 posted on 02/23/2020 4:48:05 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Stingray51

Really hard to say. But the Hapsburgd, Windsors, Romanoff, Plantagenets, Stewart’s all bad news.


32 posted on 02/23/2020 5:07:02 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: Stingray51

“If lefties like Woodrow Wilson had not forced the downfall of the Hapsburg Empire as a major result of WW1”

You have that all wrong. The Hapsburgs abdicated and turned over the government before anything was imposed upon them by the victorious Allies.

The Austrian and Hungarian delegations wanted Wilson’s “right of self-determination” to decide boundaries but that was rejected by France and Britain. Woodrow Wilson is hardly to blame, he wielded no power compared to Clemenceau and Lloyd George.


39 posted on 02/23/2020 6:39:12 PM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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