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To: Stingray51

“If lefties like Woodrow Wilson had not forced the downfall of the Hapsburg Empire as a major result of WW1”

You have that all wrong. The Hapsburgs abdicated and turned over the government before anything was imposed upon them by the victorious Allies.

The Austrian and Hungarian delegations wanted Wilson’s “right of self-determination” to decide boundaries but that was rejected by France and Britain. Woodrow Wilson is hardly to blame, he wielded no power compared to Clemenceau and Lloyd George.


39 posted on 02/23/2020 6:39:12 PM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: Pelham

Wilson was too sick by then.

My hope is that Hitler and Clemenceau are eternally bound to each other in Hell.


40 posted on 02/23/2020 6:40:31 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Pelham

EXACTLY; Wilson was a “babe-in-woods”, in the Paris arena. Clemenceau and Lloyd George were the authors of the disasters that were yet to come.


45 posted on 02/23/2020 6:51:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Pelham

Ok like I said - no historian am I.


47 posted on 02/23/2020 6:55:56 PM PST by Stingray51
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