Posted on 02/13/2020 11:08:35 AM PST by SeekAndFind
As the Coronavirus outbreak continues to roil China with no end in sight, media outlets around the world have indulged in varying degrees of speculation concerning its origins. That speculation has taken a geopolitical turn in Russia, where an increasing number of political commentators have to come to believe that the virus is a U.S. bioweapon ultimately directed at Russia.
First, a disclaimer. The Kremlin—up to and including Russian president Vladimir Putin—itself has shown a remarkable degree of judiciousness since the Coronavirus outbreak, limiting its official statements to expressions of sympathy and offers of aid to the Chinese government.
Nevertheless, certain Russian media commentators don’t share the Kremlin’s sense of restraint. Zvezda, a news outlet funded by Russian Defense Ministry, published an article last month titled “Coronavirus: American biological warfare against Russia and China.”
The author begins by establishing alleged intent: the virus dealt a blow to the Chinese economy, which weakens Beijing’s negotiating hand in the next round of trade talks to follow the recent signing of the phase one deal between Washington and Beijing.
Zvezda proceeds to the core argument, which centers around long-standing Russian suspicions over the presence of U.S. biological research laboratories across Eurasia: “As is well-known, the USA ratified the Geneva convention on Biological Weapons back in 1975. But the biological games across the ocean have never stopped, and not only in local territory. Right after the Soviet collapse, the presence of American bio-laboratories has so far been confirmed in Georgia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, and Uzbekistan. Where else—only the State Department knows, though it insists that these are harmless groups tasked with developing medical devices. But if they are so harmless, then why did the Americans build them, not at home, but across the world?” The author further infers supposedly malign intent of these laboratories
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They are surely wrong. But what’s it based on? I would guess seven decades of dishonesty and pure treachery centered around our intelligence community. Especially true now that they have just spent a decade under assault for not being homo friendly, and four years wrongfully blamed for stealing Hillary’s emails and stealing our election. They were blamed for a nerve gas attack in the UK that was actually Fentanyl and probably conducted by the Steele group.
They know “Russiagate” is a complete fiction, so one would rationally be ready to believe something like that, even though this is pretty clearly Chinese.
“What is such charge based on”?
Well there is that little CIA deal where they sprayed a plague on Cuban tobacco fields.
With all that anti-Russian propaganda based on brazen lies in the American media it is only natural to see a non-US friendly conspiracy not based on any lies in the Russian media.
Exactly. If we created a weapon, it wouldn’t be a common cold on steroids that killed 2 or 3 %
Logic.
The same thing as Russia meddling with the election: nothing.
“Probably memory of the PRC propaganda from Korean War days that we used germ warfare in Korea.”
I read an interesting article recently. That of course we were not using bio weapons in Korea, but that the propaganda was something the Norks truly believed to be likely true.
The psychotic Japanese Unit 731 did their foul work just around the corner in Manchuria Under Shiro Ishii. They staked victims out in a field, scattered, tied to posts. They exploded plague and flea weapons to measure casualty rates. Standard explosives burned up the disease agent. So the Japs built ceramic bombs with a very small breaking charge.
They conducted utterly gruesome bio and medical experiments that would have made Mengele wretch. They launched bubonic plague attacks on the Chinese cities of Changde and Ningbo with their new bombs.
Unlike German camps, nobody survived...not a soul.
It was mostly Chinese, but they also murdered many Russian men and women, and American and Aussie POWs. These were included **as a control group**, so they could refine their research and be sure the bioweapons would work the same way on white people and not just Chinese.
So we granted Shiro Ishii “Paper Clip” immunity in exchange for his sick research, and did not provide him to the Soviets for the Khabarovsk War Crime Trials in 1949. So they knew we had him, and that we wouldn’t provide him.
Fast forward a year or two to the Korean war. Korea is bombed very heavily and war rolled back and forth up the peninsula. Naturally as in any war zone, but especially asia, disease ran rampant. This was just down the road from where the Japs did their bloody work. It wasn’t all propaganda in a sense. They truly assumed that we had unleashed bioweapons like the Japs had 6 or 7 years before. That is why they tortured our pilots so brutally. They just knew that gold plated detail-laden confession was out there if they just hurt our men enough.
And their Soviet masters told them they were right and that we had Ishii in our camp.
Lot of our pilots paid a brutal price for the misunderstandings and assumptions.
Anyway, just an interesting aside. And lot’s of the world is far too ready to believe the slightest rumor about us. To me this is why the FBI/CIA coup attempt and Clapper lying to Congress is so destructive. The world sees that and knows elements of our government do whatever they want. Very bad stuff.
In many ways, the Korean war was the most horror inducing one we have ever fought. And it’s largely forgotten.
Paranoia knows no boundaries. Russian citizens have had anti-US propaganda drummed into their heads since at least 1945, and that is bound to have an effect on many people with a sub-100 IQ (and even a few above that).
Do you know the difference between the average Russian and American?
No Russian younger than 60 is listening and believes Russian government propaganda.
Also no Russian older than 18 is listening and believe American propaganda (not a best term but let’t call the narrative peddled by the Western media such for convenience) .
That leaves the most important part of population critical thinkers.
As for the American population about 70% believe the media of their chosen political bias regarding matters sensitive to them and 99% of Americans believe any Western media on matters they believe aren’t important.
That’s in the environment when Western media lie most of the time. That’s contrary to Russian media which might be contraversial in opinion or has pro-Russian bias but not to the point to make up facts to do it. That makes great difference.
According to Chinese propaganda, a ‘bioweapons container’ was dug up from the ‘dirt floor’ of the US Embassy in Beijing. Pictures and everything. China and Russia are pushing a hate-America meme because it’s so much easier to blame America than for the Chinese to accept responsibility for mismanagement of an epidemic turned pandemic. This gives our enemies leeway to attack the US with their own biologicals.
Saw a video the other day of some poor slob praying to Budda to destroy America with virus. That’s how bad the propaganda against America is, and why China won’t let CDC into China or even admit that every flight to China to get evacuees also carried medical supplies - it would go against the narrative being spun, and Russia is all to happy to go along to help hide the war-gaming.
They are also spreading propaganda blaming us for H1N1 and ‘killing millions’, even though the last outbreak of H1N1 was in Mexico, and America had already developed a vaccine for humans. China rounded up, detained and then deported Mexican nationals by the hundreds. But their propaganda doesn’t note that Mexico is not America. And ignores the science of H1N1 precursors being around for centuries, if not eons. The first 20th century outbreak being in HongKong when European pigs again mixed with Asian pigs and the two precursor viruses were able to mix. With the world-wide result of H1N1 becoming part of the ‘seasonal’ flu season, costing the US billions over the years in health-care and animal husbandry related costs. The fact that America took proactive action by slaughtering millions of pigs to prevent the spread of porcine flu, and instituted heavy controls on pig farmers, is dismissed because it would expose China’s own negligence in controlling livestock production.
“Do you know the difference between the average Russian and American?”
FYI, my paternal grandfather came from Russia in 1923, running literally for his life from the Communists. He had one brother here, and the rest of the family (except for one of my Dad’s cousins and his wife) were trapped there until the mid-’90s. One of my Dad’s other cousins, now about 75, has given me a real education about what life was like there under the Red Czars (he’s the one who gave me the “same wall, different wallpaper” lesson). Now, he is a thinker - maybe most Russians his age are comfortable still believing that Stalin was the greatest leader and all the rest of the bunk that the Communists spewed out...but he also had a lot of hardship to deal with even before the Red Czars bankrupted the country and fell. But you are right, no one young in Russia believes that schiff anymore.
I also find it highly instructive that people like my Dad’s cousin and his son (maybe 45 now) are completely contemptuous of those on the Left in this country who believe in Socialism and Communism. To them, these people are the most stupid people on the planet - they have nearly everything, and they want to destroy it and replace it with a system that has failed miserably everywhere and at every time it has been tried, and has murdered well over 100 million people along the way. You (generic you, not NorseViking) want to learn about the reality of Socialism and Communism - then go ask someone who actually lived under that system and now lives here. Ask THEM what the differences are, and you’ll receive a better education than at any university on this continent.
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