Posted on 02/11/2020 12:46:20 PM PST by BenLurkin
An Apple engineer who died when his Tesla Model X hit a concrete barrier on a Silicon Valley freeway had complained before his death that the SUV’s Autopilot system would malfunction in the area where the crash happened.
The documents say Huang told his wife that Autopilot had previously veered his SUV toward the same barrier on U.S. 101 near Mountain View, California where he later crashed. Huang died at a hospital from his injuries. “Walter said the car would veer toward the barrier in the mornings when he went to work,” the Huang family’s attorney wrote in a response to NTSB questions.
Huang also described Autopilot’s malfunctioning to his brother, the attorney wrote, in addition to talking with a friend who owns a Model X. Huang, a software engineer, discussed with the friend how a patch to the Autopilot software affected its performance and made the Model X veer, the lawyer’s response said.
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“Drivers of Teslas deserve Darwin awards!”
For sure. “The car would veer toward the barrier in the mornings when he went to work.” And he still went to work in Auto Pilot? No sympathy. I would use Auto Pilot in a Target parking lot a few times before using it on the busy 101 North through Menlo Park.
“OK. The car has many cameras and object recognition, so it probably caught a glimpse of one of those Tesla Charge Station signs (see post 71) in that area, needed a jolt and went for it.”
That is why you have reins on the horse and brakes and steering wheel on the car.
Against Tesla guidelines this guy was not keeping his eyes on the road and hands on the wheel.
> You can’t fix STUPID!!!
He found a way. Maybe not a good way...
“You can’t fix STUPID!!!”
It’s often a self-correcting state.
> I would never rely on autopilot...
Unfortunately we have to. Every time there’s a Tesla within view.
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Ya know, whenever I walk near that downed power line in the back yard, I feel a little tingle...
Tesla models have the ability if you come out of a mall say and its parked in a vast parking lot to come to you near the door so you don’t have to walk back to it. Doing that its completely driverless. Yes it will do it slowly and stop for any obstacle but that’s got to be a bit unnerving no?
Oh the name of it is called Smart Summon.
My 2018 Honda has adaptive cruise control and lane keeping. On a long trip it practically can drive itself. The car takes corners and if traffic ahead slows down and will even start applying the brakes without any input from me.
Someone did a study and it showed that younger drivers trust the system more and will drive with their hands in their laps, while older drivers (raising my hand) keep their hands on the wheel. Perhaps with age comes wisdom.
Another way to put it...
The car tempts the driver into being an idiot.
Though he rode on the wings of tomorrow …
he’s still lost in the fields of his sorrow.
The $64,000 dollar question.
after the crash just reboot and enable diagnostic logging in case it crashes again
I doubt death made him smarter. It probably didn't make him much dumber either, but it was definitely not a successful fix.
Spot on, that is the nut of it right there. Unless you have multiple cars (which in my younger days wasn't always possible) ya gotta get it running!
And the weather...ugh. I remember trying to change the clutch plate on my MG, and you have to pull the engine out to do it, so I had my car parked under a big branch of a maple tree in my front yard, and it poured rain all weekend turning the area around my car into a morass of mud.
I had never pulled the engine before, and I simply could not get the danged spline to go in. I had a tool to line it up, but...the clutch just wouldn't go in.
I was standing in the engine bay of the car, covered in mud, rain pouring down, rocking the engine, and finally went back to the auto part store to verify I had the right part.
Turned out someone else had brought that clutch assembly back because it was defective, and...they ended up selling it to me by accident. They gave me another one, and it went right in.
After that, my enthusiasm for doing auto work waned quite a bit!
it’s not a bug.its an undocumented feature.
What you say is a real problem I have with this technology.
I am very concerned about depending on the backup camera. It is a completely wonderful thing, and allows you to back up better and closer than you ever could without it!
But I worry about the thing becoming non-functional, and me getting out of practice on how to back up and park the vehicle...granted, I have been driving for around fifty years, so I think it is ingrained, but...I worry about it.
And the adaptive cruise control is wonderful, but...what if I forget, and think I have it engaged...but I don’t?????
Sigh. I just want two things. I want to either drive my car completely on my own without all this crap, or I want to be able to lay down and read or go to sleep while it drives me back home from a party where I have had too much to drink...
I hate this halfway stuff! (You have probably correctly guessed it is all a sticking point for me...my wife simply can’t roll her eyes anymore vigorously when I begin a tirade against it and use the phrase “white hot burning passion” to describe my dislike of it!)
Have you ever thought that this whole Cloud thing is just a way for the data center people (or rather people who believe in that model) to once again impose themselves after personal computers managed liberate us from them?
Maybe we should ask all the espionage devices they’ve convinced us are mere electronic assistants and smart phones if this is so?
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