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Windows 10 Warning: Anger At Microsoft Rises With Serious New Failure
Forbes ^ | Feb 6, 2020 | Gordon Kelly

Posted on 02/08/2020 7:59:18 AM PST by dayglored

Windows 10 may now be essential but users new and old have had a rough ride in recent weeks. And it has just gotten a lot worse after a new, high-profile Windows 10 failure has left more questions than answers and some seriously angry users.

The drama began yesterday [2/5] as Windows 10 users suddenly found that Search was broken with a black bar showing where search results should be, even for those who tried to perform a local search of their files. Breaking with tradition (1,2,3,4,5), Microsoft was fast to act blaming “a temporary server-side issue”. But the explanation instead kicked a hornet’s nest. First, the fix doesn’t work for everyone. Second, and more worryingly, Microsoft’s explanation doesn’t add up and it has prompted serious questions to be asked about how the operating system works and what personal data it is sharing.

Popular Microsoft pundit Woody Leonard led the charge, writing: “If you believe that yesterday’s worldwide crash of Windows 10 Search was caused by a bad third-party fiber provider, I have a bridge to sell you.”

In an open letter to new Windows head Panos Panay, Susan ‘Patch Lady’ Bradley was similarly sceptical, noting that today “we all found out that our local search boxes are somehow dependent on some service working at Microsoft.” She attacked the company for a lack of transparency and gave it a maximum ‘Pinocchio score’ for a lack of trust.

“Microsoft has been working to unify search experience across Windows, Bing, and Office 365 products...Microsoft’s efforts to supercharge the search box has many advantages, but such problems are ruining the company’s reputation,” said Windows Latest, in a stark warning.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: JonPreston

If you want simple, just go with Linux. I run Debian and Ubuntu on my Rasberry Pi’s and file server. I use Windows 10 on my main machine. My home machine hasn’t had the Search problem (I turned off all the Cortana stuff a long time ago) but the work laptop did.


21 posted on 02/08/2020 8:22:44 AM PST by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: UCANSEE2

“My old cell phone , with only an LCD display, had full duplex conversation ability. New phones (at least mine) don’t. It sucks.”

Most cellphones operate duplex using towers with two frequencies.

Future towers will be full-duplex using one frequency.


22 posted on 02/08/2020 8:26:53 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: UCANSEE2

“It costs them money to make the interface between websites and PC’s AND the interface between websites and SMART MOBILE DEVICES (phones) reformat themselves to match the device.”

Very little difference at all because it is handled with a small additional script on the site server side for mobile devices, and on the PC your browser handles it not the OS or machine hardware. Other than the separate database storage which would be the same for either device, a whole fully loaded webscript is still only 35 megs. And file sharing is the same, the size of files do not get any smaller for one than the other. And bandwidth is the same.


23 posted on 02/08/2020 8:26:58 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: dayglored
Wait until the next time Win 10 search breaks and gives search results for someone else's search on their computer to files on your computer, and of course, full access to those files!
24 posted on 02/08/2020 8:27:23 AM PST by null and void (The democrats just can't get over the fact that they lost an election they themselves rigged!)
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To: UCANSEE2

“MSFT and APPLE are converting all desk/lap top PC’s to the ANDROID/IOS format”

Source, please.


25 posted on 02/08/2020 8:29:00 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: dayglored
we all found out that our local search boxes are somehow dependent on some service working at Microsoft.

This is only a surprise to folks who ignored the Snowden revelations--everything is shared with NSA and a bunch of others, no doubt.

That is what the computer software business _is_.
26 posted on 02/08/2020 8:31:31 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: JonPreston

A used Mac can be very affordable. I’m using one. Upgrading to a solid state drive vastly improved the speed. Doing that when you first get it would pretty much eliminate any concerns about bad things lingering on the old hard drive.


27 posted on 02/08/2020 8:32:24 AM PST by null and void (The democrats just can't get over the fact that they lost an election they themselves rigged!)
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To: proxy_user

Lol... :)


28 posted on 02/08/2020 8:32:53 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: dayglored

I haven’t seen Windows in use in 20 years. Does it actually still exist? It’s kind of like defrosting a freezer or playing marbles.


29 posted on 02/08/2020 8:36:23 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: proxy_user

Get a Mac.


30 posted on 02/08/2020 8:37:07 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: dayglored

Doesn’t seem to be a problem with Win7. Windows 10 users should probably upgrade to 7 or XP, both of which were tested before release.


31 posted on 02/08/2020 8:38:52 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Openurmind

“...what folks know about an Apple Mac? I know they’re expensive, but I’m ok with that as long as it’s a simple platform. Thoughts?”

Go to Linux. You can try it out without having to load it first. Aside from not being able to play certain complex games, or play movies from Amazon Prime (Amazon’s fault),
it will do everything else, and use far less RAM to do it.


32 posted on 02/08/2020 8:40:04 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: dayglored

Thanks for the ping dayglored!

I remember importing “Fileman.exe” from a WFW 3.11 box because I didn’t like the layout of the search function in Win-95. Search functionality in Windows products has been up & down but IMO is the worst in Win-10. I routinely have to open new windows after a search because the OS won’t respond to a fresh search command.

Fortunately I exploit “Metered Connection” throttling to avoid updates so I haven’t been treated to MS’s latest “It’s not a bug - it’s a feature!”


33 posted on 02/08/2020 8:42:13 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: Chode

“so to search your own local drives it has to call home???”

Been doing that for years. The only difference has been that now it calls home first to make a real time connection, when before it called in with an updated record just before it shutdown or when it checked for updates.


34 posted on 02/08/2020 8:42:45 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Office 365?


35 posted on 02/08/2020 8:43:13 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: dayglored
In an open letter to new Windows head Panos Panay, Susan ‘Patch Lady’ Bradley was similarly sceptical, noting that today “we all found out that our local search boxes are somehow dependent on some service working at Microsoft.” She attacked the company for a lack of transparency and gave it a maximum ‘Pinocchio score’ for a lack of trust.

Both of my Windows 10 boxes were impacted by it and since I don't use Office365 nor Bing, why my local desktop search wasn't working had me yelling "BULLSHIT!" at Microsoft's excuses.

The "fix" worked for me the other day, I'll say this though: I have WireShark running on my network now and I'm taking another look at what my two Win10 boxes are sending back to MS again. I have all the privacy settings enabled, they should be getting NOTHING, we'll see.

On another note, I finally finished my Hackintosh this morning and that's what I'm using to post this. :-)

36 posted on 02/08/2020 8:44:40 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: dayglored

Linux Mint. The ULTIMATE Windows upgrade.


37 posted on 02/08/2020 8:45:03 AM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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To: dayglored

My Windows 10 has been running fine. Better than Windows 7.


38 posted on 02/08/2020 8:49:29 AM PST by McGruff
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To: CondorFlight

Did you mean this for me condor? Or someone else? Because if it’s for me you are preaching to the Mint choir here.

And the game thing is actually not that bad, they have tons of cheap competitive top notch rival 3d games over at Steam you can play online or download to your machine for offline play. They are just not available over the counter on a disk.


39 posted on 02/08/2020 8:49:55 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

and people wonder why i still run XP


40 posted on 02/08/2020 8:51:55 AM PST by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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