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I could have sworn I read BJ Clinton is charging the Secret Service.
1 posted on 02/08/2020 6:00:14 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?
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Clinton made them pay to build a residence on his property and then charged them rent.


2 posted on 02/08/2020 6:01:41 AM PST by marron
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I had to put up with 8 years of Obama dragging his mother in law around the world on the taxpayers back.

Dont care.


3 posted on 02/08/2020 6:04:02 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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Since when is a lib a&&wipe concerned over what costs “the taxpayer”?!


4 posted on 02/08/2020 6:04:10 AM PST by albie
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It’s the grift.


5 posted on 02/08/2020 6:04:34 AM PST by babble-on
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I think it is some kind of law. Pretty sure all of them have charged ...including biden


6 posted on 02/08/2020 6:05:01 AM PST by RummyChick
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Assume that everything that the Atlantic says is a lie and they threw in two or three irrelevant facts to make it seem legit. Throw another BS article in the trash where it belongs.


7 posted on 02/08/2020 6:05:28 AM PST by richardtavor
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Funny. “Properties” makes the Trump branded commercial properties sound just like the homesteads for the others, doesn’t it?

Clinton did not allow free use, IIRC.


8 posted on 02/08/2020 6:07:39 AM PST by MortMan (Warriors avoid a fight, but when engaged, they fight to utterly defeat their opponent.)
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I’m sure it went something like this...

“You can use the property for free...”

“We’ve received direction from the GAO office that free rooms would represent some sort of conflict of interest. We have to pay rack rates.”

That this isn’t coming out in October means that they found out that there really is a piece of paper somewhere that explains the discrepancy between intention and what happens.


10 posted on 02/08/2020 6:08:16 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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"...You will be stunned to learn..."

What?

I'll be "stunned to learn" that an administration spied on an opposition party using the tools of government, tried to set them up, paid for opposition research and spying with taxpayer dollars, raided houses, ruined reputations, threw people in jail, and spent tens of millions of dollars investigating what they knew was a sham, all perpetrated to cover up their own misdeeds, graft, and corruption?

11 posted on 02/08/2020 6:09:31 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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Simple. Trump properties are corporate entities, not personal fiefdoms. They have personnel to pay and properties to maintain. They have to cover those costs to remain solvent.

No one seemed to care when Obama was renting mansions in Martha’s Vineyard and on the beaches of Hawaii with Secret Service in similar accommodations nearby.

Trump isn’t taking his salary. It’s petty to assume he’s trying to get rich on bed nights for Secret Service agents.


12 posted on 02/08/2020 6:11:35 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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I read Jimmy Carter and the Clintons charged a huge amount to stay in guest houses on their property. So, let’s put this all in perspective.


13 posted on 02/08/2020 6:11:37 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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If true, and that is a big if, I suspect some bureaucrat is pocketing the difference.


15 posted on 02/08/2020 6:14:00 AM PST by Nateman ( Unless the left is screaming you are doing it wrong.)
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It may be that he Secret Service is not allowed to accept free accommodations. They have a budget for such things and if that money is not spent there may be issues in the future. Believe it or not, many agencies are very careful estimating costs for the upcoming fiscal years and if they end up with a surplus or deficit it causes problems (due to expiration of funds).

This story really needs more research to determine if it really is a story at all.


16 posted on 02/08/2020 6:16:27 AM PST by XRdsRev (ORANGE MAN GOOD.)
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between $400 and $650 per night

That's not per person, that's for the entire SS detail. Sounds like a good deal to me.........

19 posted on 02/08/2020 6:20:28 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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This probably includes room service and the minibar in high end rooms. And judging by history, the Secret Service has been known to party hard... lol


20 posted on 02/08/2020 6:20:45 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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found on snopes about clintons.

Lloyd Grove reported in the Washington Post:

It is a standard arrangement that the Secret Service provide payment to homeowners for space used by the agency in such situations. The Clintons did not take it upon themselves to “charge the Secret Service rent.”

The amount provided is based on a government formula, not set by the homeowner, and in the Clintons’ case this amount was $1,100. (Note that this figure was not chosen by the Clintons, and it was well short of their monthly mortgage payment.)

Most important, although regulations call for the payment of this amount, the Clintons did not in fact accept any money from the Secret Service.


Here: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-charges-secret-service-to-rent-cottage-next-to-his-home about Biden
23 posted on 02/08/2020 6:24:00 AM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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I don't see a problem here. In fact, it might be more problematic if his properties didn't charge for services.

Consider, as President is he supposed to keep his business dealings at arms length so that there isn't even the appearance that he is profiting. Heck, didn't the 'rats try to pursue an Emoluments clause violation or some such at one point or several times? Hey 'rats, you can't have it both ways.

Put yourself in the position of the manager running these properties - yes, for a profit. Those are valuable rooms or cottages etc. If you take them out of play, that costs that business real money. It doesn't matter if the President is actually there or not. If the Secret Service is there doing pre-visit or post-visit work, that property is unavailable to rent to other paying customers.

"...other presidents who allowed the Secret Service to use their properties, including both George Bushes and Bill Clinton, didn’t charge them.

Sounds nice, but let me guess, these were personal properties, houses, ranches, etc. - not part of a commercial enterprise.

24 posted on 02/08/2020 6:24:26 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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And CHEAP at that!

“Of course, the “easiest” way to visit Mar-a-Lago is to become a member. Membership has numerous benefits, such as the use of the formal and casual dining areas, the Trump Spa and Salon, the pool, the Beach Club, the fitness center, and gorgeous state-of-the-art suites, just to name a few. But it will cost you a fortune: A $200,000 initiation fee to be exact, plus $15,000 in annual dues. Oh, and if you’d like to spend the night, you’ll have to pay an extra $2,000.”

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/heres-what-it-costs-to-take-a-vacation-at-donald-trumps-mar-a-lago-resort.html/


25 posted on 02/08/2020 6:25:58 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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Remember these are not Trumps properties to do what he wishes. There are investors in each. Trump manages them. His family is also part of the ownership group as well. But he is not running the family business anymore. The democrats saw to that. And the secret service is not renting a room for the night permanently. They have moved in. The deal with the secret service was likely a normal government deal. Clinton had no place as President. And Bush had a ranch in the middle of nowhere with a barn type building the secret service took over. They bought their own food.


27 posted on 02/08/2020 6:27:44 AM PST by poinq
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The Atlantic - read no further.

It’s on every site now and spreading like wildfire.


29 posted on 02/08/2020 6:30:34 AM PST by conservative98
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