5 Britons with virus hospitalized in France after Alps stay

San Diego Union Tribune ^ | Feb 8,2020

[11th_VA]

Five people from Britain, including one child, are hospitalized in France with the new virus from China after contracting it during a holiday in the Alps.

Saturday’s announcement by the French health minister is the latest example of how the tentacles of the virus can spread across multiple borders.

The five British citizens were staying in a chalet in the Alpine resort of Contamines-Montjoie, and were in close contact with another Briton who apparently contracted the virus in Singapore, traveled to the French Alps and then tested positive for the virus upon return to Britain, French Health Minister Agnes Buzyn told reporters Saturday.

That brings the total number of virus cases in France to 11. Britain has three confirmed cases. The new type of coronavirus has infected more than 34,800 people globally and killed more than 700, nearly all of them in China, since the first illnesses were detected

[Candor7]

Skiers are an excellent vector for the transmission of disease. This was proven true with AIDS and other STDs. The post ski activities such as group hot-tubbing bring it.

So now the jet set is infecting the rest of us.

Even the Mile High Club is at risk.

Its an ill wind indeed that does not blow some good.

[Savage Rider]

This virus spread sounds like a slow moving tsunami. I suppose the best we can hope for is that there is a cure by the time it reaches a crest in the US.

[Moonman62]

The five British citizens were staying in a chalet in the Alpine resort of Contamines-Montjoie, and were in close contact with another Briton who apparently contracted the virus in Singapore, traveled to the French Alps and then tested positive for the virus upon return to Britain, French Health Minister Agnes Buzyn told reporters Saturday.

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Notice how it says close contact? This is not an unusual transmission. There is no reason to panic or be fearful.

[BobL]

“The patient in Britain apparently contracted the virus after staying at the Grand Hyatt Hotel in Singapore and attending a business conference there Jan. 20-22, Buzyn said. There were 94 foreigners in the hotel at the time, including people from Hubei, according to the French minister.”

This is the problem that I have with the numbers. The infected person from Wuhan had to leave that city no later than Jan 19 to be at the Singapore conference the next day. On that day, Jan 19, there were less than 200 reported cases in China.

Wuhan is a city of 11 Million. So one in 55,000 people were reported as having Coronavirus.

So, if 10 people went to that conference from Wuhan (which is very unlikely), the odds of one of them being infected was 1 out of 5,500 - just ‘bad luck’ for the others.

Sorry, not buying it. I’m not necessarily blaming the Chicoms directly here (I don’t need to), I’m saying that the spread of this virus is FAR WORSE than is being reported, whether due to censorship, ‘wokeness’, political correctness, ignorance, normalcy bias, or whatever.

This is scary crap, and, as I mentioned before, all it takes is some 6th grade math to realize this problem is MUCH BIGGER than we’re being told.

[Zhang Fei]

Still a minuscule number compared to the flu. I continue wondering if the clampdown is cover for two factions moving their forces and shifting their dispositions like a couple of sumo wrestlers in a clinch, deciding whether to engage in open conflict.

[nonsporting]

Contamines-Montjoïe

Really? “Contamines”...

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Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

[yldstrk]

So if I am not kissing them I won’t get it? I thought it was spreading by coughing and sneezing.

[Moonman62]

The most frequent phrase I see regarding transmission is “close contact.”

[BobL]

Let’s see:

Two weeks ago it couldn’t be spread by human-to-human contact (only from animals).
One week ago it took spouses to spread it.
Now it takes sharing a housing unit for a few days (i.e., close contact), assuming there weren’t orgies going on there.

Any bids on what it will take to spread a week from now?

[RummyChick]

No ethnicity mentioned again.
There had to have been many in contact with that infected person. Who got it and what do they have in common...as in are asians and indians more susceptible

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Or warm weather in spring and summer knocks it down.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

“Close contact” can mean lots of things. There’s close contact like having dinner or drinks together. Then there’s CLOSE CONTACT.

[BobL]

““Close contact” can mean lots of things. There’s close contact like having dinner or drinks together. Then there’s CLOSE CONTACT.”

I remember Ebola was a bit more specific in defining ‘close contact’ - in that case, it meant exchanging bodily fluids. I suspect that requirement went out last week.

[Jim Noble]

Rent the movie “Amistad” and watch how the Mende people honor their dead, starting at 1:06:34.

THAT is the close contact that spread Ebola, and THAT is what stopped it (when the Mende people were persuaded to allow bodies to be handled in a different manner).

[DownInFlames]

It’s airborne. Those airliners and cruise ships are Petri dishes.

[GulfMan]

Here’s the deal.

They keep saying it can be spread before symptoms. That’s one of two things.

1) A total rumor and probably untrue.
2) The only other possible way is airborne via normal breathing, not coughing, just breathing.

The CDC said last year 42.9 million people got the Flu in the US (that number it too high but still). There is no way you can track down how that spread, was it symptom-less people, people with snot on their hands touching everything, people coughing in public?

Right now it’s all rumors.

[BobL]

Yea, thanks, I heard about that. Thankfully that one was relatively easy to stop!

[riri]

Study says 105,000 Chinese people were infected with coronavirus as of January 29th