Authorities panic, or know the truth? Leaked shocking virus stats.

Maritime Bulletin ^ | February 7, 2020 9:44 am | Mikhail Voytenko

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Authorities panic, or know the truth? Leaked shocking virus stats.

Mikhail Voytenko News February 7, 2020 9:44 am

Philippines: Cebu – In executive order issued by Cebu Gov. Gwen Garcia on Feb 6, all foreign vessels that have visited China and its administrative regions 14 days before arriving here shall also not be allowed to immediately dock at any of the more than 30 public and private ports around the province.

The incoming vessels will be placed on a designated anchorage, where a quarantine inspection team will board them to assess the health of all the crew members. Once cleared by the quarantine team, the ship may be allowed to dock for the sole purpose of loading and unloading cargoes. No crew member shall be allowed to disembark from the vessel, and no person will also be allowed to board the ship aside from the quarantine team.

Negros Occidental Province

Ships from China, Hong Kong and Macau are banned from anchoring, berthing or docking at the San Carlos City Port in northern Negros Occidental Province, Negros island.

All ships are directed to proceed to the ports of Cebu or Manila, as the San Carlos port doesn’t have quarantine facilities or qualified quarantine personnel.

Busan Korea: Busan container terminals are on the verge of container capacity, piled up with containers waiting for shipment. Chinese, Vietnamese and Japanese media report numerous ships being kept at sea, off ports of Australia and Singapore, because of quarantine. Some ships, they say, are running out of supplies, including food.

Are such strict measures towards cargo ships justified? We don’t know, as we can’t assess situation and risks, because of lack of trustworthy information. What we are supposed to make out of this? Tencent may have accidentally leaked real data on Wuhan virus deaths Tencent briefly lists 154,023 infections and 24,589 deaths from Wuhan coronavirus

Taiwan News https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

In view of the above accidentally leaked numbers, harsh preventive measures implemented by authorities of some countries, including most extreme one of 14-day quarantine of all ships coming from China PRIOR to health checks and virus test, don’t look all that stupid or rash. Maybe authorities know more than we do, including these numbers, but stick to cover-up, favorable game of all the ruling elites of all times? Who knows.

Still, I believe that among all involved in international movements, transportation and border crossing, cargo ships are least virus risky, and considering vital importance of their role in supply chains, they must be given a priority in health checks, to be docked and handled as quickly as possible.

Cargo ships crews are some 15-30 people, all living in easy to isolate quarters. Why not berth the ships as scheduled, and carry out tests and screening while simultaneously, handling cargo? Crews of ships arriving from China (or any Asian port, if they call some Americas countries) are banned from leaving the ship, anyway. All the more so, if leaked information, including very distressing, gruesome videos from China, published even by mainstream media, is grossly exaggerated, or even fake, though it doesn’t look like fake, not at all.

Voytenko Mikhail

Feb 7 2020

[ASOC]

Back in the day, ships had to fly a ‘Q flag” on entering a port and wait to be cleared.

So, not so much new as old school procedures. Not a bad idea, in fact.

[LucyT]

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PING

[PIF]

154,023 infections and 24,589 deaths from Wuhan coronavirus

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That was some days or a week ago - and those figure may be low ... very low

[BobL]

Wow, it didn’t take Mikhail long to change his tune from yesterday (per your just-prior posting).

[Jane Long]

Get it, for the crew members....

What about the cargo???

😱🦠

[BobL]

“That was some days or a week ago - and those figure may be low ... very low”

That was just under a week ago...and those huge numbers are more in line with the early anecdotes (huge lines at hospitals, 24/7 crematoriums, etc.)...than the puny numbers being claimed at the time.

[Jim Noble]

First of all: No one knows what the real numbers are. The government of China certainly doesn’t know.

But the “leaked” numbers you just reposted are a misreading of Chinese (I don’t read Chinese, either, but I follow these numbers that are posted closely).

As of the day those numbers were posted, 24 589 were “confirmed cases” and
154 023 were persons under observation.

[PIF]

Those numbers were also just for the Wusan area (not for all of China) and does not count the other 140 million people or other 62 cites quarantined

[dp0622]

You left out the most important words.

Literally ALL in China.

Out of 150,000 infections, how many outside?

The countries are taking it very, very seriously.

People were traveling for probably weeks and maybe a month before China really let the cat out of the bag.

There should be millions infected worldwide at this point.

There’s not.

I’m cautiously optimistic about things here. Of course I could be completely wrong :)

And I still feel very bad for the folks in China.

Bad enough to have a terrible illness but to have no treatment and to be entombed in your own home in some cases by the govt!!?? Wow.

Of COURSE it may get really bad here.

So far so good. Let’s all pray it doesn’t.

It sounds like a horrible way to go.

Worse than marriage.

[glorgau]

> Why not berth the ships as scheduled, and carry out tests and screening while simultaneously, handling cargo?

Because stowaways may be in the cargo.

[PIF]

Other Chinese native speakers on FR confirmed the actual wording as correct. It was not misread.

[fella]

Yet the airplanes still fly.

There are reports that over 5 million people from the Wuhan area left for the traditional Chinese New Years holiday just before the area was put in quarantine. Kind of explains the outbreaks on cruise ships and other vacation spots.

[Jim Noble]

There are four numbers in the daily epi reports, they are:

Confirmed Cases
Suspected Cases
Deaths
Persons Under Observation

On the day those “leaked” numbers started zooming around the internet (they’re not leaked, you can see them every day on many public websites), 24 589 were confirmed cases and 154 023 were persons under observation.

[PIF]

There should be millions infected worldwide at this point.

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an assumption, not a fact

other than those sealed in - all other people suspected are bring rounded up and sent to camps.

From the latest Chinese video - a summary:

Posted by Travis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YbIl1Q-DYw

People are forcibly removed from their homes by men in hazmat suits;
people are literally thrown onto the bed of a flatbed truck and taken to a quarantine station;
quarantine stations are run by the PLA;
quarantine stations only allow people in, not out;
quarantine stations are not hospitals;
there are no ‘appliances’;
there are no bathrooms;
toilets are outside 200 meters away, but people cannot leave the building;
there are no medicines;
everyone sleeps next to everyone else - only a foot or so of separation between beds;
no partitions - no privacy;
no doctors;
no nurses;
only ramen for food.

3 provinces locked down;
150 million people quarantined;
63 cities locked down;
Forced detainment off ALL infected or suspected to camps

Sentiment: I’d rather die at home then go to a quarantine camp.

The joys of tyranny ...

Remember,
there is nothing to worry about,
10,000 people die every year in the USA of flu,
Its just the flu ...

[sauropod]

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[PIF]

you win

[Excubiae]

First of all: No one knows what the real numbers are. The government of China certainly doesn’t know.

True. But the government of China has a much, much better idea than anyone else. They are going to have a ballpark guess that will not be as ludicrous as the official numbers (they are almost certainly instituting random testing across all provinces, they will also have a good idea of how many bodies the crematoriums are processing, etc.).

They won't know the exact number (they don't even know the exact number of SARS victims, even now). But they are going to have a very good idea of how many digits are in those numbers.

[sanjuanbob]

No need to worry. I just saw a scientist on Fox say they should have a cure for this in a year.

[dp0622]

What a horror there.

And YES, worldwide includes China.

I should have been more specific. I would have figured there’s be a million cases outside of China...these things spread so fast and exponentially.

I think technology is helping to contain it...the fast transmission of information etc.

It still may happen outside of China. I hope not.

And as I get older, I hurt for people whereas 20 years ago it would have been like watching a TV show.

They are living a HORROR over there in a totalitarian regimes that cares more about appearance than lives and whose cruelty knows no bounds.

They deserve our prayers, poor souls