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The IOWA "App" is Why Computers Should Never Be Allowed to Tally Votes.
Feb 4, 2020 | ML/NJ

Posted on 02/04/2020 9:06:20 AM PST by ml/nj

I am a Computer Programmer with 40+ years of experience. If I were allowed to program anything that tallied votes, the probability that a Democrat would ever win an election would be very low.

But I haven't been allowed to tally votes, Democrats have; and IOWA has exposed them.

ML/NJ


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KEYWORDS: caucus; counting; iowa; vanity; vote
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To: ml/nj

I have 20+ years. in any election counted electronically, he who has access to the database will determine the result - no matter how the votes were counted, or how many there were.


21 posted on 02/04/2020 9:35:09 AM PST by jimjohn (2020: The year the Republicans can and should take back the black vote.)
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To: ml/nj

The Iowa app was designed and implemented by Clinton campaign people.

It was unnecessary in the first place. But the DNC decided to use it.

Biden and Buttigieg also use the company for their campaign apps.

Hmm.


22 posted on 02/04/2020 9:37:18 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: bigbob

Oh no....they can count alright. They just can’t count fairly.


23 posted on 02/04/2020 9:40:01 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ifinnegan

The Iowa app was designed and implemented by Clinton campaign people.
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I’ve been saying this for a long time now. ...brokered convention.. ...Hillary takes the nomination. ....that’s why the impeachment. ..dirty up Joe and President Trump. Gives Hillary a better chance of beating Trump in swing states. No other rat candidate has a chance ..just my thoughts. ..


24 posted on 02/04/2020 9:43:44 AM PST by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. ( https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE))
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To: ml/nj

I agree with you. But good luck trying to convince conservatives that there is massive vote fraud.


25 posted on 02/04/2020 10:20:51 AM PST by Revel
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To: ml/nj; All

The states have never expressly constitutionally given ordinary citizens the specific power to vote for president like citizens have for electing members of Congress.

So just like 17th Amendment-protected power to vote for senators sometimes backfires on the Progressive Movement elite, our politically correct power to vote for president, power which violates the 12th Amendment and possibly other constitutional provisions imo, has probably backfired on the Democratic elite in this Iowa situation.

Patriots need to elect a new patriot Congress that will promise to fully support PDJT’s already excellent work for MAGA, now KAGA! (Keep America Great Always!)


26 posted on 02/04/2020 10:26:17 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Sure, it’s fine in theory. That said, you weren’t the target of State enabled hackers.

I think it can be done but only if the source code is open, builds are digitally signed, and blockchain is used to record the votes. Then it might survive scrutiny. Everything must be transparent and verifiable.

Using an ‘app’ made by a private company, funded by Democrat POTUS candidates, is the opposite approach - we see the results.

I have 30+ years of software engineering. Until I see something like what I’m proposing I’m not interested. Even then, I’d want paper backups. The main concern is all the other avenues that enable voter fraud.


27 posted on 02/04/2020 10:27:07 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: ml/nj

Al Gore started this, when he convinced many people that his supporters were too stupid to vote on paper - in order to delegitimatize his failure to win election.


28 posted on 02/04/2020 10:29:43 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: ml/nj

Part of the Iowa problem is that they started using a form of ranked choice voting. They are using it here in Maine and it is a disaster.


29 posted on 02/04/2020 10:32:30 AM PST by brooklin
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To: ifinnegan; JayAr36

What’s your opinion about the first caucuses and primaries being held in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina? I think that the states with the highest voter turnout in a mid-term general election, should be rewarded with the first caucuses and primaries, in the next presidential election year. Two or three states should hold a primary or caucus, each week, for 17 weeks, Feb.-June.


30 posted on 02/04/2020 10:38:26 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: ml/nj

31 posted on 02/04/2020 10:42:13 AM PST by dead (Trump puts crazy glue on their grenades and they never know it until after they pull the pin.)
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To: PhilCollins

“What’s your opinion about the first caucuses and primaries being held in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada etc...”

Thanks for asking but this is one thing I don’t have much of an opinion on.

I really don’t know who can dictate to a state when they hold their primaries or caucuses.

If it were to become subject to change it would never end and the process would become highly politicized and subject to in-fighting, machinations, manipulation etc... ad nauseum.


32 posted on 02/04/2020 11:21:32 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ml/nj

Define a computer tallying votes. Or, are you insisting on adding up votes by paper and pen?


33 posted on 02/04/2020 11:37:09 AM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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To: ml/nj

Agreed


34 posted on 02/04/2020 12:01:15 PM PST by tbw2
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To: IndispensableDestiny
Define a computer tallying votes. Or, are you insisting on adding up votes by paper and pen?

If you push a button next to someone's name as I do here in NJ, that's a computer tallying votes. So is some reader that scans something and reports a count, though I suppose if whatever was scanned is saved then I suppose an honest recount would be possible.

Adding machines are okay. (Used to add up totals of identified batches of paper ballots)

ML/NJ

35 posted on 02/04/2020 12:01:31 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: BushCountry

The main developers are Clinton cronies. The head of the organization worked on Clinton’s campaign.


36 posted on 02/04/2020 12:01:36 PM PST by tbw2
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To: ml/nj

The Iowa caucus app didn’t kill itself.


37 posted on 02/04/2020 12:34:33 PM PST by Clioman
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To: ml/nj
Adding machines are okay. (Used to add up totals of identified batches of paper ballots).

The first time I voted, it was in NJ using the old lever pull machines. I recall using something like this in Junior High:


38 posted on 02/04/2020 1:15:36 PM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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To: IndispensableDestiny
old lever pull machines

I'm not sure but I think these machines made holes in a paper tape that might be reviewed, but mostly the pole watchers just read mechanical counters which would probably be more difficult to tamper with.

ML/NJ

39 posted on 02/04/2020 2:48:26 PM PST by ml/nj
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