Posted on 02/02/2020 10:17:02 PM PST by BenLurkin
Numerous examples with this virus...with people in good health getting serious symptoms for roughly 48 hours, and then all symptoms disappear by 4th day. Key thing is age and good health. If you have lung issues or weakened immune system, it’s pretty nasty.
The first US case was young, in his 30s, and he’s still in the hospital.
Wait til it hits that homeless population.
At some point, probably pretty soon, it’s going to be impossible to control. At around a 2%-4% mortality rate, not exactly the Black Death. But that still makes it the worst thing since.
has anyone seen the date of when this guy returned, or any other Wuhan return dates? The Philippine case was Jan 21 travel - about the time that rumors of a total lockdown were circulating in Wuhan and the highway going south was jammed with ppl fleeing the quarantine.
The arrivals from China are the vectors, and their numbers should be decreasing.
If the US government is allowed by Congress and the courts to carry out policy as presently declared, for even a month, we will escape the worst.
But he’s not dead and NO ONE has died from this outside China if I’m right, so it seems like a bad virus that might or might not end you up in the hospital where you’ll get treated and unless you’re old or already sick, and leave.
Sorry bored folks and End of Days..this isn’t the end of the world.
I get bored too. I took up model airplanes :)
The one confirmed death outside China was in the Philippines. A 44 year old male. WHO Source announcement
Was he otherwise compromised? How long did he have symptoms before getting help?
I start with Mucinex at the first sign of anything to try to keep my lungs from clogging up.
Yep - and we don’t seem to have anyone but live-in companions having it transmitted to them.
ML/NJ
What seems to happen is, get virus, get symptoms for a few days, ‘recover’ but continue to have virus, collapse with pneumonia 10-14d later.
Not otherwise compromised.
Healthy non smoking 35yr old male.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191
Free paper from New England Journal of Medicine on that case. It’s just a case study, no politics.
AFAIK we still haven’t listed him as ‘recovered’ and AFAIK he’s still in the hospital.
He wasn’t desperately ill when he sought medical care, just knew he’d had sniffly cold symptoms and had been in Wuhan.
Developed pneumonia even though we had him on serious IV antibiotics and would have died or still been very seriously ill w/o the experimental compound we gave him.
Fortunately it doesn’t appear as though he spread this to anyone and for that we can be very thankful.
Oh honey, I remember party lines.
The arrivals from China should be decreasing, yes. If there are no flights out of China to anywhere.
When Wuhan ppl first heard about restrictions, tens of thousands diddybopped south and out to distant points (besides the 5 mil the mayor told us about). Undoubtedly some came or returned to the Western World because they felt their chances were better anywhere but China. Well, a lot of people in say, India or Vietnam, or wherever, will have the same idea. So the threat from China could be over, but that leaves the other 20 countries. The danger element rose when 2 children, age 2 and 11, were hospitalized in Kalua Lampur, showing the Wuhan infant and 9yo cases weren’t just a one-off. (Jan 24th the ‘youngest’ patient was 34)
Ebola first appeared in 1976. It didn’t spread widely because of the remoteness and poverty of the outbreak area. 40 years later, it’s still burning through Congo. CV is no longer ‘remote’. It’s been said the CV of newer cases haven’t differed from the first. We might be able to count on it mutating itself into salt, but it’s staying stable for now - good for vaccine development, bad for prognosis. So, dependent on the infection rates in other countries and how they handle quarantine, there’s a strong possibility we’ll need to continue extreme entry screening well beyond one month.
We’ll need fast, accurate and plentiful testing kits and close monitoring of flights into Mexico and Canada. And we’ve got to find a treatment or we’ll need a mandatory vaccine program concentrated in states with a large and fluid foreign pop. along with intensive public education campaigns in the minority enclaves of America. Old people dying is one thing; if this thing goes after kids, which are any nation’s legacy, that’s a whole new ballgame because we’re blind as to long-term effects. And that makes me just a little paranoid.
Thanks - I’ve know other healthy folks with a susceptibility to bronchitis and other pulmonary ailments - had childhood asthma myself but don’t generally suffer from much if I get a head start with Mucinex and such at first signs of possible cold, etc.
He seems to be an exception for his condition/age group but we still don’t know the demographics in China itself.
I don’t believe really anything out of China except the travel restrictions, entire provinces quarantined, etc.
If this thing WERE attacking the young and healthy I wouldn’t expect the chicoms to admit that. From a military preparedness, intel standpoint.
So do I, Some of my friends had them. We didn't have dial phones until 1957. You'd pick up the phone and an operator would say, "Number pleeaz." (For most of my calls, I would just tell her four digits.)
ML/NJ
I don’t remember that far back.
But dial phones were pretty much all you had when I was a kiddo, only rich kids/people had the fancy punch number phones.
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