Of course not. I was commenting on the headline, and I believe I said that I wasn't excusing the frat.
There is a major difference between peer pressure of a fraternity and a violent rape attack.
Glad you were able to divine the reality of the situation from a newspaper article. Have you spoken with Ithaca Police? I’m sure they’ll want to know the truth.
Oh, BTW, violent rape and frat initiations are NOT the same thing.
That’s a pretty good straw argument. I’m sure there is a rape thread on FR somewhere that you can throw your views into.
But it has nothing to with what is being discussed on this thread.
You don’t have any clue “what happened here”
Fraternities have been getting much cleaner over the past several decades. What you are describing may have been the rule from the 1950s to the 1980s but it is significantly different today.
What else has changed is the press each of these incidents garner.
Now, these incidents are big news because they are so rare.
What is not news is the large number of non fraternity kids that die on college campuses from drugs and alcohol. But those deaths don’t fit the overall story line.
Utter garbage.
The young man was old enough to know better than to engage in such idiocy.
This sounds hauntingly familiar to what happened at Clemson a few years ago.