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To: OIFVeteran
I hated it. Probably because I grew up reading the comics and that was not the Joker. It was just some mentally ill man losing it. The joker is the clown prince of crime. He plans and executes elaborate criminal schemes, designs and creates deadly devices and chemicals.

There is a theory going around on the internet that Joker is not meant to be THE Joker, for the reasons you describe. If that is true, this film is simply about a psychotic loser.

44 posted on 01/29/2020 9:13:40 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (With every passing day, I am a little bit gladder that Romney lost in 2012.)
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To: Sans-Culotte; OIFVeteran
This "Joker" is just one director's take on a character that was made to be perpetually mysterious - the chaotic Yang to Batman's ordered Ying. Other than the brief brushes with the Wayne family this guy would be an anonymous head-case.

Film-makers seem unable to resist sticking to source material. Sometimes that actually improves upon it while they're tasked bringing printed or graphic/comic characters to three-dimensional reality while suspending disbelief. Sam Raimi had the webbing shoot straight out of Spider-Man's body and it didn't hurt those films at all. Letting other directors handle the third one did.

"The Dark Knight"'s Joker never fell into a vat of skin-bleaching chemicals - just wore make-up over facial scars for intimidating effect. And that worked just as well on Heath Ledger throwing his entire soul into that portrayal. He could have acted that out with nothing on his face and still creep me out. THAT Oscar found it's proper home.

47 posted on 01/29/2020 4:16:23 PM PST by MikelTackNailer (20 years goes by fast.)
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