Posted on 01/25/2020 10:59:01 AM PST by US Navy Vet
Ok here it is, Are there "Mistake" US States that should have NEVER been allowed/invited to be part of our Great Country?
Rats. Virginia republicans won’t be able to join with WVa. Pity.
What’s wrong with the Italians and Irish?
That’s the democrats argument against the electoral college. They think red states shouldn’t have an equal voice.
Maybe not. That section says nothing about a part of a state joining another state. Kind of open to interpretation.
Bump
States need to have more of a representative system, not a strict popular vote. New York city should have a limit on how much sway they have over the rest of the state.
Many states have such issues, such as how Chicago has dominance in Illinois, Detroit dominance in Michigan, etc. I don’t know how to counteract that, given that the proportional representation in state legislatures will give such big cities huge delegations in their legislatures.
Let’s turn them loose, rather than making them states. Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, and any others, let’s just set them free.
Invade Canada again? The last time Washington DC was burned to cinders.....oh is that the plan again? :)
“Obviously you’ve never driven across Kansas on I-70. You can see where you’ll be in 2 hours.”
Rush-hour traffic in suburban Maryland is similar except it’s because you’re not moving.
I hope, someday, North and South Dakota will put aside their differences and become just Dakota
I’m all for turning them loose.
Off-topic, perhaps, but right on-target. IMHO
The District of Columbia.
I’m a little ahead of things, I know.
Sorry, this is a silly conceit
Lib governors would and did just appoint lib senators
> Sorry, this is a silly conceit Lib governors would and did just appoint lib senators <
Sorry FRiend, but you’ve got things mixed up a bit. Before the 17th Amendment was passed, state legislatures appointed senators. Governors had nothing to do with it.
And please note that I was able to post to you without using any insults of any kind. I think conversations go better that way.
The problem in this country is not the states, it’s the commies in them. And they are in all of them. Just some states have a higher ratio than others.
Bingo! The parasitic a$$hole viruses that live there need to be “cured”! The liberal virus metastasizes routinely around this country by leaving their personally-created $hithole to another state, and doing the same thing again. There needs to be a party card check at the border, so all rat-holes are not allowed in.
From related threads…
Many generations of parents have evidently never worked with their state and local governments to make sure that their children are taught about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers as the Founding States had intended for those powers to be understood.
More specifically, the abuse of their 17th Amendment (17A) voting power by clueless, low-information citizens probably wouldn’t have contributed as much to unconstitutionally big federal government if voters were aware that nearly all of the promises of social spending programs that corrupt federal politicians having been making for the last 80+ years to get themselves elected and reelected are constitutionally indefensible.
In other words, voters don’t understand that the Founding States had intended for voters to work with their respective state governments under 10th Amendment (10A) powers, not the federal government, to tax and spend for state social spending programs that the legal citizen majority voters of a given state want.
In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, a constitutional lawmaker, had clarified that the Founding States had left the care of the people uniquely to the states, not the federal government, state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices also indicating this.
”... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
Justice Brandeis later put it this way about the "laboratories of democracy," the unique powers of the sovereign states to serve the people, depending on what the legal majority citizen voters of a given state want.
"It is one of the happy incidents of the federal system that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose [emphasis added], serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country.” —Justice Brandeis, Laboratories of democracy.
Note that constitutional limits on states as laboratories of democracy is that states cannot establish privileged / protected classes or abridge constitutionally enumerated rights, and must maintain a constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government.
In addition to low-information voters unthinkingly abusing their 17A powers, FDR's state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices put the unconstitutionally big federal government on steroids by doing the following.
Regarding unconstitutional federal domestic taxing and spending, using inappropriate words like “concept” and “implicit,” the excerpt below from Wickard v. Filburn (Wickard) shows what was left of the defense of 10A-protected state sovereignty by the last of state sovereignty-respecting majority justices in United States v. Butler, FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices later blatantly ignoring the reasonable Butler interpretation of 10A when they scandalously decided Wickard in Congress’s favor imo.
"10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
"In discussion and decision, the point of reference, instead of being what was "necessary and proper" to the exercise by Congress of its granted power, was often some concept [???] of sovereignty thought to be implicit [??? emphases added] in the status of statehood." —Wickard v. Filburn, 1942.
In other words, today's ongoing tsunami of unconstitutional federal taxes is arguably based on the misguided abuse of 17A voting power in conjunction with the scandalous, effective repeal of 10A by FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist majority justices.
The remedy for unconstitutionally big federal government on our backs…
Patriots need to elect a new patriot Congress that will not only promise to fully support PDJT's already excellent work for MAGA, now KAGA, but will also do this.
New lawmakers also need to promise to work with PDJT to not only surrender state powers that the feds have been stealing from the states back to the states, but also to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.
And to make putting a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes permanent, patriots need to further support PDJT in leading the states to repeal the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.
Remember in November!
MAGA! Now KAGA! (Keep America Great Always!)
"The “Holy Grail” of organized crime is to control government power to tax." —me
"The power to tax involves the power to destroy,” —Chief Justice John Marshall, McCulloch v. Maryland, 1819.
"The 16th Amendment effectively repealed the involuntary servitude aspect of the 13th Amendment imo, evidenced by unconstitutional federal taxes." —me
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"13th Amendment, Section 1:
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude [emphasis added], except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
"16th Amendment:
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
"The ill-conceived 17th Amendment not only effectively politically repealed the 3/4 state supermajority requirement of the Constitution’s Article V for ratification of proposed amendments to the Constitution imo, politically correct interpretations of the Constitution now prevailing under Democratic judicial tyranny, but also consider this. That amendment also effectively nullified Congress’s constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers along with the Supreme Court’s clarification of Congress’s limited power to appropriate taxes." —me
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"The constitutionally undefined political parties are basically rival, corrupt voter unions, “union dues” paid by means of unconstitutional federal taxes. Belonging to a political party means that you are a subject, not a member.” —me
"Patriots need to support PDJT in demanding that Congress moves "April 15" tax day to the day before election day." —me
"The smart crooks long ago figured out that getting themselves elected to federal office to make unconstitutional tax laws to fill their pockets is a much easier way to make a living than robbing banks." —me
"Federal career lawmakers probably laugh all the way to the bank to deposit bribes for putting loopholes for the rich and corporations in tax appropriations laws, Congress actually not having the express constitutional authority to make most appropriations laws where domestic policy is concerned. Such laws are based on stolen state powers and uniquely associated stolen state revenues." —me
Hear here!
Something like this deserves an invitation to leave the Union:
It’s not an invasion, anarchy or non-republican government. It’s just willful violation of the Bill of Rights. If so called-citizens of California tolerate this kind of behavior, why should they remain in the Union?
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