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Flu count jumps to 15M cases
Becker's Hospital Review ^ | January 24, 2020 | Mackenzie Bean

Posted on 01/24/2020 11:01:00 AM PST by buckalfa

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While some of the numbers in the article do not match up, the stats reported would seem to indicate that the various flu strains in the United States are more prevalent and potentially just as deadly as the Chinese coronavirus outbreak. This begs two questions: 1.) is the coronavirus threat being over hyped? 2.) is the true threat of the virus being hidden given China's seemingly robust quarentine? Thoughts please!
1 posted on 01/24/2020 11:01:00 AM PST by buckalfa
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I guess it would depend on which agency is giving out the statistics and if there are enough numbers of this virus outside of China to give an adequate assessment.

We know we can’t really trust what China says.


2 posted on 01/24/2020 11:04:50 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: buckalfa

I think the huge quarantine might tell us more than what is actually said.


3 posted on 01/24/2020 11:05:38 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: buckalfa

The numbers associated with the new virus are not terrible so it is being over hyped.

However, being something new it’s good to watch closely for trouble.

So it’s something to keep an eye on, but nothing to lose sleep over.

Need to see how things develop over the next month or so.


4 posted on 01/24/2020 11:09:03 AM PST by fruser1
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To: buckalfa

Normally I ignore these stories until after they have run their course - and my life was completely unaffected.


5 posted on 01/24/2020 11:09:28 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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1. The CDC estimates flu has caused 15 million illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths this season.

6. The overall flu-associated hospitalization rate was 24.1 per 100,000 people, up from 19.9 per 100,000 people a week prior. The CDC has recorded 7,013 flu-associated hospitalizations since Oct. 1, 2019.

So the CDC "estimates" hospitalizations are 20 times higher than the actual recorded number?

6 posted on 01/24/2020 11:10:33 AM PST by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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I think the huge quarantine might tell us more than what is actually said.

The most important question for me is the actual mortality rate for this virus. The large quarantines and the closing of Disney World China may tell us that mortality is worse than being reported. On the other hand, it could be a major over-reaction.

7 posted on 01/24/2020 11:10:55 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: buckalfa

I came down with it last weekend, but I didn’t bother going to the doctor. There’s no point. There’s nothing they can do until it runs its course. Started taking Tussin to clear out my lungs. It works pretty well.


8 posted on 01/24/2020 11:11:11 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
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To: Shethink13

Not every case of flu is tested or confirmed. Most are treated empirically. The quick swab in the ER for flu is basically worthless. I have many cases where the screening swab is negative and later testing confirms flu. This is the epidemic we should be worried about now . Whether the Chinese virus will turn out to be as bad time will tell.


9 posted on 01/24/2020 11:14:00 AM PST by Mom MD
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Friend at work has a Chinese friend who says the news in China is that thousands of people are dying of it in the United States.

Now we know why Google helps them lock down the Interwebs.


10 posted on 01/24/2020 11:14:35 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
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I can’t speak directly to the coronavirus or these numbers; I can tell you that I picked up a bug on travel the Saturday before Christmas, and it mutated into one of the worst respiratory infections I’ve had for several years. I fought it with OTC meds for two weeks and refused to go to a urgent care clinic, preferring to wait until I returned so I could see my family doctor. The earliest he could see me was 72 hours because his waiting room was packed ike a can of sardines - it was like everyone got it at once. It took Prednisone to open my airway up, Azithromycin to fight the bug, and a bottle of codeine cough syrup to help my throat heal. It’s been a month now, and my voice is still raspy, but I’ve otherwise flushed it out of my system. Oddly, the one symptom I didn’t have was a fever of any sort, but I’m still drinking double my usual fluid intake (not factoring in my daily beer consumption).


11 posted on 01/24/2020 11:14:50 AM PST by Viking2002 (Epstein and Ukraine Airlines Flight PS752 didn't kill themselves. Yeah, I went there.)
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“I think the huge quarantine might tell us more than what is actually said.”

Besides that, the CCCP is not given to spreading news about how bad things are in China, it wants “everything is sunshine and roses” to be the narrative - so when they grudgingly admit that there maybe just might be a problem, that also speaks loudly.


12 posted on 01/24/2020 11:15:48 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: Mom MD
It's been raging for quite a long time, see the CDC Flu Map Here ...
13 posted on 01/24/2020 11:16:00 AM PST by GulfMan
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As it does every year this year is no exception. It’s one of the largest public health threats in this country. it not sexy to talk about I guess unless to run down vaccines or the medical profession. I guarantee there will be similar numbers next year as well


14 posted on 01/24/2020 11:17:42 AM PST by Mom MD
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“Thirty-five states experienced high flu-like illness activity in the week ending Jan. 18”

End date was too early to derive anything from it re: any influence of Chinese-imported flu.


15 posted on 01/24/2020 11:18:49 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: buckalfa

The CDC is not interested in controlling disease. This is why they say nothing about the open borders, against quarantines, think it’s great you can poop on the streets in San Francisco as if that will not eventually lead to disease, are for bio sludge being spread on crops in the State of Washington, and think CO2 is bad even their is what trees and plants breath. The flu vaccines have almost never been the correct strain. So why do they push fly vaccines if they are the correct strain?

Getting back to your question. I think the Corona Virus is the first of many potential pandemics that will have eventually lead to forced vaccinations or medical tyranny that are trained with a slow kill that will eventually kill off most of the population. This is why they have secret vaccine courts , and at the very same time ignore the points I listed at the beginning.

CDC does not control disease. That is all you need to know.


16 posted on 01/24/2020 11:29:29 AM PST by Enlightened1
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I live in area that has a large Asian population.

Thank you for your low crime rate and exceptional work ethic.

P.S. - please leave indigenous diseases in your home country.


17 posted on 01/24/2020 11:42:32 AM PST by zeestephen
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11 deaths so far in DFW


18 posted on 01/24/2020 11:43:10 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Here’s hoping it is only the flu.


19 posted on 01/24/2020 11:48:28 AM PST by Ingtar (Bedbugs, thy name is Democrat.)
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To: Mom MD

No malice herer - just wondering - was it true that the vaccine chosen this season did not protect particularly well against the strains that were actually showing up?

Thanks much, for your insight
Tatt


20 posted on 01/24/2020 11:56:26 AM PST by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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