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Bed Bath & Beyond closes 4 Southern California stores, plans to shutter 36 more locations (Amazon effect?)
Orange County Register ^ | 1/23/2020 | KEVIN SMITH

Posted on 01/24/2020 6:33:57 AM PST by vespa300

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To: vespa300
Sounds like you would have been right at home in the Luddite anti-industrial movement of the very early 1800s. Change -- adapt or die.


41 posted on 01/24/2020 7:07:47 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: vespa300

Never understood the appeal of this place. Most of what it carried could be found for elsewhere cheaper, even before Amazon. And for all the hundreds of gadgets and as-seen-on-TV products it did have, it always seemed to be missing some pretty basic items in each department the few times I checked it out.

Maybe those 20%-off-one item coupons that they give out like candy are what made it so popular.


42 posted on 01/24/2020 7:08:47 AM PST by Stravinsky
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To: dfwgator
Well, for one, if you hire staff who know their stuff...

That is the farthest thing from most retailers minds. My wife worked retail for over 25 years before joining me with our mushroom farm two years ago. She worked for JC Penny, Sachs, Parisian, Proffits, and finally 15 years with Belk when it was still family owned. She saw the same thing happen at every store. The stores went cheap on quality while trying to maintain above average retail pricing (hoping nobody would notice), the corporate mentality treats the store employees like dirt instead of the face of the company. In the case of Belk, when the Belk family sold a group of investors bought it. Any semblance of caring about their employees stopped immediately. The Belk store where she worked, an anchor store at a popular local mall, went from setting company wide sales records to losing money within 2 years of being sold. They eventually ran off all the more experienced, knowledgeable employees by cutting back hours, store discounts and even wages in a couple of cases. Don't be surprised if you hear about Belk filing for bankruptcy in the not too distant future. Self inflicted, I might add.

43 posted on 01/24/2020 7:09:06 AM PST by Thermalseeker (If ignorance is bliss how come there aren't more happy people?)
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To: Fiji Hill

I love shopping online, but the only clothes I shopped for were socks. Since I only buy Gold Tow brand, it’s not a gamble. I also buy food from the local Fry’s (Kroger), not online. I like to personally select the meat and produce.

But for everything else? Amazon Prime, with delivery from 1-3 days. Since I work from home, porch pirates are not a problem.


44 posted on 01/24/2020 7:09:43 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: Zhang Fei
I’ve never entered a World Market. How does it compare to a Bed Bath and Beyond?

Quite different. Cost Plus is sort of a less expensive Pier 1. The products are mainly imports, often with an exotic flair. They also have wines and imported beers and imported food and snacks (but not cheapass Dollar Store stuff). We love to get stocking stuffers there during the holidays; also greeting cards and glassware.

45 posted on 01/24/2020 7:09:59 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (With every passing day, I am a little bit gladder that Romney lost in 2012.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

I loved Woolworths. They had yarn and everything for needlecrafts; and always had a very interesting stationery department.


46 posted on 01/24/2020 7:12:35 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: fireman15
Some of the malls we used to go to became dangerous places as well.

I had a client meeting at a cafe in a mall a while back. The place was filled with young, morbidly obese gansta chicks in spandex.

Not at all like malls used to be.

47 posted on 01/24/2020 7:13:00 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Toe


48 posted on 01/24/2020 7:13:23 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: Sans-Culotte

[Quite different. Cost Plus is sort of a less expensive Pier 1. The products are mainly imports, often with an exotic flair. They also have wines and imported beers and imported food and snacks (but not cheapass Dollar Store stuff). We love to get stocking stuffers there during the holidays; also greeting cards and glassware. ]


Thanks for the tip. I have to wonder if they helped tip Pier 1 (another bum pick that failed to pan out) into what may be impending Chapter 7 liquidation.


49 posted on 01/24/2020 7:13:34 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: vespa300

BBB used to have (in addition to its value products) really high end and specialized cooking equipment.

For example, the highest-end line of Wustoff knifes; giant 10-15 gallon pots with thick copper and iron bottoms; Le Creuset cookware, etc.

Mrs. Jewbacca is a French-trained kosher chef and is very particular about her equipment.

All that stuff is gone. I couldn’t even find a good, high quality, fry pan for eggs.

Sell crap; go out of business.


50 posted on 01/24/2020 7:13:59 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jamestown1630

[I loved Woolworths. They had yarn and everything for needlecrafts; and always had a very interesting stationery department.]


I think Michael’s and JoAnn’s have more than filled that niche. Even Walmart now has an interesting crafts department.


51 posted on 01/24/2020 7:15:44 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

But you could go to Woolworths and buy a dozen necessities in one short trip - and have lunch.


52 posted on 01/24/2020 7:16:55 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: laplata
I would hate to see them go our of business. The vacuum was somewhat of an exception. Samsung had a sale on robot vacuums, and Amazon didn't reflect the sale price.

I usually find that between hands on and on-line, on-line is better. e.g. I'm looking for a new TV to upgrade to the 4K standard. Price is the same among Best Buy, Brand Smart, and Amazon. Best Buy requires 10 days to deliver (free) but doesn't keep that model on hand in stores near me. Brand Smart has them on hand, BUT is in a county with a higher sales tax so if you pick it up at the store you pay more, and if you don't want to do that, charges a hefty delivery fee. Amazon will deliver the next day from their warehouse in the south metro area with no delivery fee, and charge the same tax rate as the county I live in.

53 posted on 01/24/2020 7:17:50 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: dfwgator

[Always think in terms of differentiation.

What can you do in a brick and mortar store that cannot be done online?

Well, for one, if you hire staff who know their stuff and can explain and educate potential buyers, and can build a sense of trust with customers, that is something that can’t be done online.]


Unless you’re Saks or Nordstrom, the niche for department stores featuring commissioned salespeople may have gone the way of elevator operators and tail fins.


54 posted on 01/24/2020 7:19:13 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: vespa300

Malls, high rents, toxic chemical products when everyone is now buying non-toxic.


55 posted on 01/24/2020 7:20:40 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Hard to survive out there. One of the best is Hubert Joly. He has helped to save Best Buy so far.


56 posted on 01/24/2020 7:21:00 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: fireman15

or having your car broken into while you shop

I will note that the bad actors seem to have somewhat disappeared - the DJT economy with fewer people on welfare means less ‘free’ money and more people actually working.


57 posted on 01/24/2020 7:23:07 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Theoria

Best Buy was definitely rescued from a steep spiral!


58 posted on 01/24/2020 7:25:55 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Jamestown1630
But you could go to Woolworths and buy a dozen necessities in one short trip - and have lunch.

I have to agree with you that Woolworth's was a wonderful chain. And its Cathedral of Commerce HQ in NYC is a beautiful structure.


59 posted on 01/24/2020 7:27:39 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: from occupied ga

Good points. I use Amazon and ebay all the time. I am very selective with ebay, though.


60 posted on 01/24/2020 7:28:44 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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