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If You Aren’t Paying Attention To The Latest UFO News, You Really, Really Should Be
Townhall.com ^ | January 20, 2020 | Scott Morefield

Posted on 01/20/2020 3:37:27 AM PST by Kaslin

I’m as much a Sci-Fi fan as most anyone. I’ve read my fair share of Orson Scott Card books, seen all the Men in Black movies, think it’s a travesty that Firefly got canceled, and have sat through every cringy second of every lame attempt to improve on the original Star Wars trilogy, but until the past few months, I’d never seriously considered even the remotest possibility that humans may not be alone, at least on this planet and in this solar system. 

But here we are, and if anything should unite humanity in an era seemingly as divided as ever, it’s the desire for an answer to this burning question: What in the world (or out of it) is going on with these UFO sightings? Yep, you read that right, UFOs. As in Unidentified Flying Objects, a topic, granted, typically reserved for the realm of kooks and pranksters. But what’s been going on as of late is something entirely different, and if you’ve not been paying attention yet, I strongly suggest you start.

Last May, Fox News host Tucker Carlson interviewed former military intelligence official Luis Elizondo, a man whose background - working for the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and heading up the since-defunded Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program - puts him in a unique position to speak on the topic. Currently the Director of Global Security and Special Programs at the Stars Academy of Arts and Science and the host of the History Channel series “Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation,” the knowledgeable, well-spoken, decidedly non-kooky Elizondo lends an aura of serious credibility to a topic not often taken seriously enough.

Navy pilot Chad Underwood, another decidedly non-kooky individual, had remained mostly quiet about his own November 2004 UFO encounter until last year, mainly because he wanted to dodge being “attached to the ‘little green men’ crazies that are out there.”

"At no point did I want to speculate as to what I thought this thing was — or be associated with, you know, 'alien beings' and 'alien aircraft' and all that stuff," Underwood told New York Magazine, explaining why it took him so long to speak out. "It is just what we call a UFO. I couldn't identify it. It was flying. And it was an object. It's as simple as that."

The “UFO” Underwood and his commanding officer, David Fravor (if you have a couple of hours, his interview with Joe Rogan is absolutely fascinating), witnessed “represents one of three known instances in which Navy pilots caught an unknown aerial object (the Navy prefers that term over UFO) on camera,” Business Insider reported, the other two being in 2015.

"The thing that stood out to me the most was how erratic it was behaving," he said, describing the “Tic-Tac”-like object they encountered while flying the Navy’s Super Hornet fighters on combat exercises. "Its changes in altitude, airspeed, and aspect were just unlike things that I've ever encountered before flying against other air targets."

The unclassified DOD report surrounding the event stated that the object seemed to go from 60,000 feet to 50 feet over the water “within seconds,” had no heat or wings, and “possibly demonstrated the ability to 'cloak' or become invisible to the human eye" and could even have the capability to "operate undersea completely undetectable by our most advanced sensors."

Speaking of Underwood’s encounter and the others as well as his own research and experience working for the government, Elizondo told Tucker that the question is no longer whether or not UFOs exist.

“Is it possible these things are a foreign adversarial technology that somehow was developed in secret and we are just now trying to figure these things out?” he said. “It’s possible. But, there are also other possibilities as well, of what these things could be.”

When pressed, Elizondo assigned a “low probability” to the adversarial technology theory: “Look, we have the most sophisticated weapon systems right now on the face of the planet, and we can identify not only a 737 or a MIG 25 or F-22, we can tell you even what airline it is and the difference between the models of aircraft within that type of aircraft. So, I think it’s highly unlikely that a foreign adversary was successful in developing something like this.”

While the government has allowed some information about these encounters, including some grainy videos, to be declassified or remain unclassified, recent news suggests there is still much that remains hidden. In fact, the Navy recently admitted to possessing top-secret information about UFOs that, if released to the public, could cause “exceptionally grave damage to the National Security of the United States.” And if that doesn’t raise enough eyebrows, this reportedly includes at least one unreleased video that has been classified as “SECRET.”

At the end of his Fox News interview, Carlson asked Elizondo if he believed that the “U.S. government has in its possession any material from one of these aircraft?”

“I do. Yes,” he responded. “Unfortunately, I really have to be careful of my NDA. I really can’t go into a lot more detail than that … But simply put, yes.”

Elizondo’s “five observables” that differentiate UFO technology from known technology - instantaneous acceleration, hypersonic velocities, low observability, trans medium travel, and positive lift or anti-gravity - mean that, alien or not, we’re dealing with something that, if discovered, could potentially alter life as we know it in ways none of us can possibly imagine. All of which leads to, of course, far more questions than answers. But for the first time in any of our lives, the questions have reached a whole new level. No longer are we wondering whether or not UFOs with superior technology to anything we know exists, but rather, who - or what - is behind the wheel.



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KEYWORDS: aeronautics; conspiracytheory; engineering; hypersonic; hypersonictictacs; qanon; tictac; ufos
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To: HighSierra5

Sometimes an explanation that cannot be assigned from current knowledge.


121 posted on 01/20/2020 9:45:06 AM PST by GingisK
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To: xkaydet65

LMAO! How true!


122 posted on 01/20/2020 9:46:37 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Bon mots

Yeh, and he was actually talking about OdumboCare!


123 posted on 01/20/2020 9:48:21 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: StolarStorm

Years ago I was arguing in favor of the notion that UFOs were real, and were probably of ET origin. I mentioned that thousands of reliable witnesses have seen them. I was ridiculed pretty heavily. I was rewarded by two exciting contacts. The first was a personal FReep Mail from General Jesse Martel Jr. (He said, they are here). The second one was an email to my primary email account, not the FReep Mail. This one was someone who claimed to be a spook who has witnesses ET craft starting in Vietnam and on going. He said that they are real, of ET origin, and quit worrying about what other people think because you can’t make a dent in concrete heads. He also told me that his return address was a spoof. It was.


124 posted on 01/20/2020 9:53:40 AM PST by GingisK
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To: MRadtke

Dating all the way to the Renaissance?


125 posted on 01/20/2020 9:57:47 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
There is no other explanation than a demonic origin.

Small minds who wish to contain God's gigantic Creation in a small box are pretty sure about this stance.

126 posted on 01/20/2020 10:03:25 AM PST by GingisK
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To: BuffaloJack

Yes, Navy fighter pilots took video of tic tac shaped ball lightning changing altitudes up and down, going underwater and resurfacing, hovering and then shooting up out of the atmosphere.

And US DIA misclassified it because ball-lightning. And the Navy has further video of ball-lighning it won’t release because of grave nat’l security concerns.

Or you’re nuts.


127 posted on 01/20/2020 10:23:20 AM PST by servantoftheservant
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To: GingisK
" He said that they are real, of ET origin, and quit worrying about what other people think because you can’t make a dent in concrete heads"

I laughed when I read this. I guess because there's some irony in a person who works for agencies who traffic, at least partially, in disinformation. Blaming the targets for being swayed by the very disinformation you help disseminate...

If they've "been here" for the better part of half a century (probably longer) it sure would be interesting to see the results of whatever interactions have occurred. Too bad those involved think the rest of us wouldn't be able to handle it.

OTOH, let your mind wander on the possibility that they're right - that we wouldn't be able to handle it. What might that mean?
128 posted on 01/20/2020 10:25:12 AM PST by chrisser
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To: GingisK

Hey stupid! Glad you chimed in with geometry when the subject is actually physics.
Stop talking about subjects you know nothing of, folks might at least might consider your posts.


129 posted on 01/20/2020 10:25:19 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

And that was highly sarcastic btw... ;)


130 posted on 01/20/2020 10:26:46 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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To: GingisK
Nope. Talking about modern radar showing objects apparently “changing altitude by 10s of thousands of meters” instantly, or near instantly.
131 posted on 01/20/2020 10:34:44 AM PST by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: Levy78

No. I have no idea at all. Just seen them buzzing around the Space Shuttle. They are odd to say the least. Not obvious craft with little green guys waving out windows. They aren’t ball lightening either unless ball lightening can reach into orbit, fly around the shuttle a few times and zoom off.. and be detected on radar. They always said it was “space debris” or optical distortion, but that’s BS. One of them was being tracked by NORAD.


132 posted on 01/20/2020 10:45:55 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: chaosagent

I grew up in a neighborhood right near JSC. Based on your background we know people in common. JSC was my home. Not going to share more personal details just in case though. But yes, MCC got shut down a few times for tape collection when something really odd was spotted. I know the person who was tasked with spotting such things...


133 posted on 01/20/2020 10:51:40 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: romanesq

I feel a bit better about it all now because I think President Trump wants to release all the info. Moves are certainly being made in that direction. I do want to re-iterate that I have no idea or even a theory as to what they are. I just know that strange fuzzy looking objects are attracted to our space program and make fairly regular appearances during missions.


134 posted on 01/20/2020 10:55:03 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm
Should mention that I am second generation NASA. My father started with Apollo. He is in a lot of documentaries and so forth, but always lurking in the background. His name is never mentioned.

It's fun to play "spot dad" in various space related works. One was kind of embarrassing. There is a clip of him testing a camera and it shows him putting it up to his nose so you can see his nostril. For some strange reason, National Geographic put that clip in one of their various documentaries. No idea why.. maybe because it was funny?
135 posted on 01/20/2020 11:17:12 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: SkyPilot; Mom MD; odawg; Kaslin; StolarStorm; z3n; Mr. K; ealgeone; Lee'sGhost; 3boysdad; ...
About 1% of UFOs cannot be explained after careful investigation as natural phenomena and are classified as "residual": rUFOs. They are distinguishable because they break the laws of physics: right-angle turns, instant acceleration, no sonic booms, no debris remaining after crashing despite damaging the crash-site, etc. In short, they are real yet not physical.

They are demons, fallen angels. Typically, they mimic current technology--a century ago they appeared as zeppelins. There are two books which serve as the definitive works on this subject:

* The Bible carefully and frequently documents angels' innate ability to manifest themselves at will in any form in our world.

* Lights in the Sky and Little Green Men: A Rational Christian Look at UFOs and Extraterrestrials. Its main author, astrophysicist Dr. Hugh Ross, has studied UFOs and rUFOs for nearly 60 years.

136 posted on 01/20/2020 11:51:37 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

How Christian of you, pin head.


137 posted on 01/20/2020 12:04:43 PM PST by GingisK
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To: chrisser

I guess you haven’t seen the rest of the posts from “first person” observers.


138 posted on 01/20/2020 12:07:51 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Hebrews 11:6

I don’t think they are demons. I wasn’t going to speculate, but I can’t help myself. Apparently (and this part I don’t know first hand) they escorted Apollo 13 safely home. There is no evidence at all that “they” are hostile. I put they in quotes because those things could be drones. No idea. But nothing I’ve seen or heard indicates ANY hostile intent. Heck, based on lore (again, not first hand info) they have deactivated nukes. Perhaps they are protecting us from ourselves. Note that there have been no accidental launches nor have nuclear weapons been used since WW II. Are we really that good? Are we really that lucky?


139 posted on 01/20/2020 12:11:42 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: jospehm20

And they might be telling the truth. UFOs tend to have connections in terms of area with other paranormal activity, including stupid stuff like bigfoot. In fact, all the phenomena have paranormal qualities, like telepathy, sudden vanishing, and trickster like behavior.

As an aside, someone I trust, who does not behave nuts, doesn’t take meds, and swears has never experienced anything like it, tells the story of how he prayed away a UFO, a flying metallic saucer, that suddenly flew over his home, parked, and proceeded to telepathically threaten him.

I also have an auntie and uncle who have sore traditional UFO sighting story out of Houston.


140 posted on 01/20/2020 12:14:58 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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