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NO POLITICS Initial Analysis of Murders in White Settlement TX Church (VIDEO)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5NzuGSkL2E&feature=youtu.behttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5NzuGSk ^ | 12/29/2019 | Active Self Protection

Posted on 12/29/2019 4:51:34 PM PST by dragnet2

his is a NO POLITICS initial analysis of today's murders in a church in White Settlement, Texas. It is meant to educate in technical and tactical applications of church safety for all houses of worship. This educational analysis is not meant to be critical of people other than the murderer.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


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Shooting video/analysis link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5NzuGSkL2E&feature=youtu.be

1 posted on 12/29/2019 4:51:34 PM PST by dragnet2
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5NzuGSkL2E&feature=youtu.be

Shooting video/analysis link


2 posted on 12/29/2019 4:52:44 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Militia man is a phase I keep hearing.


3 posted on 12/29/2019 4:55:08 PM PST by devane617 (Kyrie Eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?)
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To: dragnet2

This guy lost any credibility with me when he called the Springfield XD the McRib of sidearms. But to his credit, he looks like he has laid off the McRibs himself and gotten his health in order.


4 posted on 12/29/2019 5:14:26 PM PST by The Unknown Republican
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To: The Unknown Republican

Watching it, the church members appear to be trying to talk the shooter down. The shooter then escalates, shooting two, the church member draws and shoots, taking the shooter down. Even more interesting was how many additional church members had drawn their firearms and were advancing on the location of the shooter within seconds. These were people who were ready to protect the others in the church.


5 posted on 12/29/2019 5:19:25 PM PST by rstrahan
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To: dragnet2

That is a good video. He nails it on several aspects. The one he doesn’t mention is situational awareness failure. Also, member trying to pull weapon is carrying incorrectly (SOB) for that situation AND stands up after shotgun has been pulled out. Fella holding communion tray should have rushed the shooter immediately when shotgun came up. Probably could have kept him from Shooting second shot. Oh well, it’s over.


6 posted on 12/29/2019 5:23:41 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: dragnet2

Sadly, it is being reported that the second parishioner shot (the black man initially confronted by shooter) has passed away.


7 posted on 12/29/2019 5:30:57 PM PST by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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To: dragnet2

Good video showing close-ups of the people involved. A lot going on very fast.


8 posted on 12/29/2019 5:51:05 PM PST by Boomer ('Democrat' is now synonymous with 'corrupt')
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To: rstrahan

Lessons sometimes are learned by ultimate sacrifice. There are those who are much more knowledgeable than me to “armchair” and do post-analysis. I hope all churches that are armed take precaution and tighten up.


9 posted on 12/29/2019 5:56:00 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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I suspect the shooter “made several people’s radar” when he entered. Manners prevented them from drawing first.


10 posted on 12/29/2019 6:00:37 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: DCBryan1

R I P

A hero

God bless him and his family


11 posted on 12/29/2019 6:08:24 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust! Hi)
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To: dragnet2

I’ll offer this from my perspective as someone who carries in church:

I’ve always been content to carry my J-frame concealed. It is fairly easy to hide. Mine is 357 & I shoot it with 357 so I know how it feels. If confronted in a street or while hiking, I’m not likely to have a legal basis for shooting 15+ yards. At that distance, someone with bad intent is likely to conceal their intent, act friendly (or at least not threaten) until much closer. I didn’t worry about good sights because my primary scenario was shooting at someone within a couple feet of me.

I became convinced a year ago that carrying in a church is different. I’d most likely need to shoot in a crowded room from a distance of over 15 yards. The guy might be wearing body armor. And be armed with a rifle. So I switched to a Glock 27, and more recently to a Ruger Security 9 (full size). Longer barrel. Much longer sight radius. The full size gun feels very instinctive in my hand. A full grip counts for something.

A full size gun might be a liability as a “get off me” gun. Too big & too long of a draw. But my J-frame/Ruger LC9 is a liability for a church shooter scenario.

Watching the video, I was struck by the guy nearby having trouble getting to his gun. That will be an issue for anyone carrying concealed, and the more concealed, the bigger the problem. I like IWB carry, but belt carry and whatever sort of jacket will allow me easy access may be what is needed for a church. Although I wear jeans to church, a suit coat unbuttoned would never be too out of place and allow better access than an untucked shirt.

The video reinforces the idea that how I carry going to WalMart may not be how (and what) I carry to church. Just food for thought.


12 posted on 12/29/2019 6:27:36 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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This *CANNOT* be a coincidence.

13 posted on 12/29/2019 6:33:28 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: dragnet2

What is that girl screaming? Sounds like she keeps saying “let him go”.


14 posted on 12/29/2019 6:33:34 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Mr Rogers

The shooter had been arrested several times and was known to the police. Still no name though.


15 posted on 12/29/2019 6:33:37 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: dragnet2

Screw tube is Covering this up. Pulling All video clips of it.

Jackasses !!!


16 posted on 12/29/2019 6:35:34 PM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5NzuGSkL2E&feature=youtu.behttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Ds5NzuGSkL2E&feature=youtu.be

this works


17 posted on 12/29/2019 6:37:29 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: piasa

They are hiding something about this guy. Odd to have no answers about him yet.


18 posted on 12/29/2019 6:38:13 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DCBryan1

There’s a photo on the church site with a lot of little kids including a number of black kids in front, I hope he’s not their grandpa. Alas, he probably was someone’s dad and grandpa, but they’re about the age I was when I lost mine. Ugh.


19 posted on 12/29/2019 6:39:53 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: DesertRhino

I think she’s screaming “Daddy, no”.


20 posted on 12/29/2019 6:40:25 PM PST by Beach333
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