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Democrats Seek To Outlaw Suburban, Single-Family House Zoning, Calling It Racist And Bad For The Environment
Daily Caller ^ | December 23, 2019 | LUKE ROSIAK

Posted on 12/24/2019 10:08:34 PM PST by EinNYC

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To: GraceG

Will Virginia become the flashpoint???
Use to think Va would be a good place to retire, no more!!


61 posted on 12/25/2019 8:32:29 AM PST by bantam
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To: EinNYC

62 posted on 12/25/2019 9:21:37 AM PST by knarf (est line of the year !)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Stupid people elect stupid politicians


63 posted on 12/25/2019 10:03:33 AM PST by okie 54
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To: EinNYC

They are aiming at eliminating the red zones around most liberal cities.


64 posted on 12/25/2019 10:14:46 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Lincoln: "The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. They inheritered it, that way!")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It sounds like they want to make America like their beloved Mexico. Twelve families in one dwelling.

Plus 3-4 singles living in the garage.


65 posted on 12/25/2019 10:16:09 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Lincoln: "The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. They inheritered it, that way!")
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To: Robert A Cook PE; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; ...
Thanks Robert A Cook PE.

66 posted on 12/25/2019 12:24:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: sphinx
There are probably a few duplexes around though I can't picture one, but many of the rowhouses have been subdivided into two, three and four unit buildings. We have quite a few smaller apartment buildings; these were part of the Victorian urban style and they've survived the transition. We have converted schools. We have converted churches.

Guessing it's mostly younger hipsters and other gentrifiers who live in these units.

Here and there, especially along our major arterial streets, we have large scale rebuilds, and some of these have a mix of price points including supported low income units.

Okay, so here's where you might find some actual low-income people.

Sounds like folks in the historic district have insisted on a zoning approach that allows a sprinkling of low-income housing in the arterial areas but keeps it away from the nicer parts.

67 posted on 12/25/2019 12:34:19 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
LOL. Capitol Hill doesn't do hipsters. We are a starched and buttoned down demographic. The Hill is very centrally located. It has always attracted people who work for Congress or downtown and don't want a brutal commute. When the city crashed and burned, the schools went south. The Hill continued to attract young people for the traditional job reasons, but they tended to move when they got married and kids reached school age. The public schools became no-go areas for the middle class of all races, so if you stayed on the Hill, you sucked it up and paid for private school. Most left for the burbs. But the Hill has always been a nice place to live.

Gentrification is driven largely by the awful traffic congestion in the suburbs. Commuters are spending two to four hours a day in their cars. Private schooling looks a lot more affordable if you put a dollar value on your time wasted in traffic. About 20 years ago, young people started staying on the Hill when their kids went to school. A snowball effect kicked in. A couple of our local elementary schools have flipped, and people are actually moving to the Hill to be in bounds for public schools. High school remains an issue.

Historically, the Hill has always been a mixed use, mixed income neighborhood. It is only very recently that it has emerged as an expensive area. People my age routinely reflect that we wouldn't have moved to the Hill in the first place at today's price points. But for those of us who bought 20-30 years ago, gentrification has been a financial windfall. I don't know how the young people can afford it.

Most of central Capitol Hill is in the historic district and has some protection against being torn down. It is also mostly built out. Here and there, there are small scale infills. Major projects in the historic district are few and far between, but there are a few.

Our local Safeway, for example, was torn down last year. It will reopen next year, but the old one-story, big parking lot plan is gone. Safeway will occupy the first floor. There will be four floors of condos or apartments above that. All the parking will be underground, so the dead space of a big parking lot becomes usable space. I think that project will bring 150 units. I don't know the price point.

A local underutilized junior high school on Pennsylvania Avenue at Eastern Market was torn down with a new, major development taking its place. Again, all the parking is underground. The full footprint of the site is used. There's ground floor retail and residences and offices above. There are some affordable housing units, but the top end is extremely pricey. This is in a premier location.

We've had a couple of LBJ era housing projects torn down. The replacements are attractive, mixed income developments. There is significant densification all around the perimeter of the historic district where developers have more latitude to tear things down. The Anacostia and Potomac River waterfronts, along the foot of Capitol Hill, are being intensively redeveloped, at high density. The H Street N.E. corridor, which was burned out in the '68 riots, is finally being rebuilt. More densification.

This kind of thing is now happening all over the city, while congestion in the suburbs only gets worse, and already insane commutes turn into nightmares.

But hey: Maryland wants to add another lane to I-270 inside the beltway (which is already six lanes, eight including the shoulders, each way). And they want to add another lane to the Maryland portion of the beltway. Even if this is eventually built, ten or more years from now, it will not make a dent in the problem, as new sprawl development even further out will overtake it before the first shovel of dirt is turned.

The simple fact is that DC's traditional spokes and hub commuter system is collapsing under its own weight. It is no longer scalable. And even if you could build more lanes on arterial roads, there is nowhere to put the cars once they get downtown. We are at terminal congestion. People are going to have to take the train or live closer to their jobs. And this includes poor people.

Our urban planning was car centric for over 50 years. That has to change. We have to redevelop into a city in which significantly more people can live closer to work. That translates into walkable and bikeable, mixed use, mixed income neighborhoods all over the metro area. Suburban NIMBYism has to go.

68 posted on 12/25/2019 2:27:45 PM PST by sphinx
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To: EinNYC

Virginia is for Morons!! Sorry, if they want it, Virginians voted for this crap.. Maybe they’ll be a new state Smart Virginia... I bet 90% of Virginia don’t want it...


69 posted on 12/25/2019 3:55:25 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: EinNYC

This is really about eliminating the nuclear family as a political unit.


70 posted on 12/25/2019 3:56:16 PM PST by thecodont
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To: blueplum

White Genocide continues apace.


71 posted on 12/25/2019 5:12:47 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: sphinx

IBTZ troll.


72 posted on 12/25/2019 5:14:39 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ronnie raygun

It’s time to build 10,000 units of low income housing on Martha’s Vineyard... let the damn ‘elites’ deal with MS13 and criminal illegals that Sanctuary cities won’t turn over to ICE... Let’s ‘diversify’ their little island.


73 posted on 12/25/2019 6:00:44 PM PST by GOPJ (Washington Post & NYT (protectors of corrupt white liberal elites) sold out their country.)
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To: EinNYC

Michael Moore’s main mansion is in a neighborhood that 96% white. Time to ‘diversify’ that community. Maybe low cost and free housing for criminal illegals - twenty or thirty thousand of them - would do the trick. Tall Cabrini Green type complexes next to Michael Moore’s home...


74 posted on 12/25/2019 6:03:29 PM PST by GOPJ (Washington Post & NYT (protectors of corrupt white liberal elites) sold out their country.)
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To: sphinx

LOL. Capitol Hill doesn’t do hipsters. We are a starched and buttoned down demographic


My point is that the people living in the Victorian apartments and subdivided homes aren’t low income people. I asked if you’d be willing to have your area zoned for duplexes, by which I meant low income multi family housing. You replied that you already had such housing in the form of Victorian apartments and subdivided homes. But the people living in these are by your own admission not low income types.

Anyway, it’s been interesting hearing your ideas.


75 posted on 12/25/2019 6:11:41 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

Capitol Hill still has housing projects left over from the 1960’s. We have Section 8 housing. Within the last month or so, the city signed contracts to build a hundred or so units for people now living in shelters, many of whom have been in shelters for years — i.e. the hard core homeless types. This will be built on part of the the Stadium/Armory tract along the river on the eastern edge of the Hill. The point is, we have a sizable low income population. They’ve always been here. As a result, we’re not sympathetic with suburban jurisdictions that hide behind exclusionary zoning and refuse to shoulder any of the responsibility for finding better solutions.


76 posted on 12/25/2019 6:40:25 PM PST by sphinx
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To: skimbell

YES.

Laws are written by men but some laws are natural.

Like the right to defend one’s self.

Not all of man’s laws are to be obeyed.

No matter where one lives.


77 posted on 12/25/2019 6:48:53 PM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: jospehm20

Agreed. Their voters need to be penalized. I will let others decide the penalty.


78 posted on 12/25/2019 7:17:04 PM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens)
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To: EinNYC

I’m pretty sure people of all races want to move out of the hood into a nice single family home. Just call it a hunch.


79 posted on 12/25/2019 10:21:38 PM PST by Crucial
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To: EinNYC

Bump for later.


80 posted on 12/26/2019 12:50:32 AM PST by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123, Bahbah, and Just Lori.)
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