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Study: STEM profs should give easier grades in order to draw more women into the field
College Fix ^ | December 19, 2019 | Daniel Payne

Posted on 12/19/2019 9:38:53 AM PST by C19fan

The authors of a new study suggest that science and technology professors should “equalize average grades across classes” in order to draw more women into those fields of study.

Inside Higher Ed reports that the researchers, examining administrative and course data from the University of Kentucky’s archives from 2012, found that students both spent more time on STEM courses every week—about an hour—and that they also got lower grades in STEM classes than in others.

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To: C19fan

if you cant do the freeking math you shouldn’t be designing things that could fail and kill people.


21 posted on 12/19/2019 9:52:13 AM PST by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . .)
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To: C19fan

I’m sure this is already being done for members of certain minorities so as to raise the numbers of the graduation rate.

They were graduated from high school when they didn’t meet the qualifications. They were admitted to college although they didn’t meet the qualifications. They were promoted although they didn’t meet the qualifications.

I hope that one day the authors of this “study” are treated by a doctor who was given fake marks and who didn’t deserve to pass.


22 posted on 12/19/2019 9:52:58 AM PST by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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To: C19fan

Gee, seems to me you could conclude with equally validity that grades should be toughened up in non-STEM classes so as to attract more men to fields that are disproportionately female.


23 posted on 12/19/2019 9:55:05 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: C19fan

2+2=5 according to liberals...but try to design a bridge based on that...NO THANKS


24 posted on 12/19/2019 9:56:13 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: C19fan

So, if a woman shows up with such a degree we can ignore it because it is not real?


25 posted on 12/19/2019 9:58:15 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: C19fan

You either know it’s delta H minus T delta S or you don’t.


26 posted on 12/19/2019 10:01:09 AM PST by DBrow
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To: C19fan

Wait until they find out about the disparities in medical specialities. As examples:

Pediatrics is about three-quarters female; their residency generally runs about three years.

Most surgical specialities are more than three-quarters male; their residencies are mostly five to six years.

I’m sure they’ve got some wonderful fix for that circumstance as well - can’t wait to find out my surgeon has only had three years of training because we had to have the right mix of people in the business.


27 posted on 12/19/2019 10:05:00 AM PST by Stosh
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To: C19fan

Bad enough we have to deal with inept programmers from India.


28 posted on 12/19/2019 10:06:02 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: C19fan

Because women are dumb and can’t do the work?


29 posted on 12/19/2019 10:06:13 AM PST by jrestrepo (See you all in Galt's gulch)
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To: dangus
Then the solution is for women to become less concerned with their GPA, and more concerned with their degree. The article notes that women actually tend to have higher grades than men in those STEM classes, so it's not like those classes are weeding out women disproportionately.

If the women STEM students don't want it as badly as the men and so drop out anyway...that's on them.

30 posted on 12/19/2019 10:11:07 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: C19fan

I am sick to death of this crap.

Women have always been able to go into nearly any field of study they wanted to, the only thing stopping them was themselves.

I know many tough, capable women who were in STEM fields long before this crap to promote women in STEM was even mentioned.

How long has this push to get women into science been going on? 30 years?

What a load of manure.


31 posted on 12/19/2019 10:22:03 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: Sacajaweau

My point exactly. Women who wanted to in years past, worked hard and DID it.

Did they (or you) have to put up with being the only woman in the room and all that goes along with it? Sure. But over time, you get REAL acceptance from people when they realize you can do your job and do it well.

This is, in my eyes, the bigotry of soft expectations. The Left does this with various minorities and women. I think it is corrosive and destructive to the society, the workplace, and the individuals involved.


32 posted on 12/19/2019 10:27:41 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: Stosh
"...can’t wait to find out my surgeon has only had three years of training because we had to have the right mix of people in the business..."

I work in a large institution, and am forced to take diversity training each year. They spout the BS that having diversity of gender or race makes the product better, and spew that out as if it is accepted fact.

Fact is, I am only interested ONE kind of diversity, and as far as I am concerned it is the only one that counts: Diversity of thought regarding the business and product.

Everything else doesn't count at all towards quality or improvement.

33 posted on 12/19/2019 10:32:44 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: C19fan

It seems to me there is already a system in place. If you don’t have the grades and test scores to get into MIT you apply to a lesser school..


34 posted on 12/19/2019 10:41:02 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Trumplican
I went to an engineering college a loong time ago. 6:1 mail to female ratio.

The postmen were very busy.

35 posted on 12/19/2019 10:44:15 AM PST by Arones
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To: rlmorel

As proof of your point, my dad’s cousin earned a degree in Chemical Engineering from a major southern university in the 1920s. She obtained special permission to even enroll, because women were limited to K-12 teaching programs. Harassment and deliberate exclusion is unacceptable, but affirmative action grading is an insult to smart, hard-working women who can make it on their merit. It would harm women by creating an excuse to perceive their accomplishments as illegitimate.


36 posted on 12/19/2019 10:47:42 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: C19fan

To the hell, naw!!
Whether the student be a skirt, yeah i said that, from Kentucky, or Kinjiang, or County Cork, the standards should be the same, as they weere once provided by the represented industries, with their determined qualifications!!


37 posted on 12/19/2019 10:49:03 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: hal ogen

The 737 Max strikes again!!


38 posted on 12/19/2019 10:52:14 AM PST by libstripper
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To: House Atreides

Make it easier = dumb it down.

NOT going to happen in my courses.

Problem solving, technical concepts, and logic can be mastered, if you seriously want to learn. If not, take a walk over to a discipline you are more interested in and can master.

There are plenty of males who enter STEM programs who eventually self-eliminate.

The students, male or female who want to learn and who apply themselves will generally succeed. Maybe not with an A average, but with a solid array of passing grades.


39 posted on 12/19/2019 10:56:27 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: C19fan

From a woman STEM grad who did sometimes get grades low enough to upset me from a drink-from-the-firehose institute: don’t insult me, you patronizing SOBs. Make it hard; lives depend on STEM. Better to suffer the shame of a C and learn from it, than the shame of a catastrophic failure in the field.

Note the researchers are not saying higher grades for women; they’re saying set the curve for everyone on a B, not a C. My point stands for men and women; suffer the C.


40 posted on 12/19/2019 10:57:15 AM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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