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TRUMP WAS NOT IMPEACHED. HE WAS VOTED FOR IMPEACHMENT
Free Republic ^ | Hostage

Posted on 12/18/2019 6:26:53 PM PST by Hostage

Trying to get people to stop saying Johnson, Clinton, Trump were all impeached, is not something that will stick because most people aren't going to bother with definitions.

But impeachment means removal upon conviction.

Whereas voting to impeach is a form of indictment.

It is correct to say no American President has ever been impeached.

It's not splitting hairs, it's just showing respect and awareness of terms.

Trump as of today must answer to a vote of impeachment, a partisan, unjust, false vote of impeachment by criminal opponents who are using offensive lies in a process available to them to shield themselves from justice.

I am certain these agents of subversion have cemented in place the process of impeaching themselves. But first they will threaten via blackmail at least 20 GOP Senators to impeach the President. And when they lose, they will blame the GOP Senate for allowing Trump to rig the 2020 election thereby putting in peril their brand of 'democracy'.

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To: Hostage

“Impeachment” means “To Charge” not “To Convict.”

Now with the Left, to charge IS to convict.


21 posted on 12/18/2019 6:41:30 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Oklahoma

Disagree. A vote for impeachment is not impeachment. It is a vote to commence the process of impeachment.


22 posted on 12/18/2019 6:41:52 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

And Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize. Both things are just as meaningless.


23 posted on 12/18/2019 6:42:17 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: bennowens

Nixon resigned before he was impeached


24 posted on 12/18/2019 6:42:29 PM PST by The Mayor (I am outraged at your outrage toward the outrage!)
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To: Hostage

“But impeachment means removal upon conviction.”

After reading the comments, I’m in agreement with those that say you are wrong. The Google definition of both ‘impeach’ and ‘impeachment’ have to do with a charge of misconduct or treason or otherwise calling certain acts into question.

As another poster said, it’s and indictment.

If Trump is not convicted, then he cannot be removed from office or prevented from running again.


25 posted on 12/18/2019 6:42:37 PM PST by redfreedom
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To: raccoonradio

Nixon probably would have been removed, and he knew it.


26 posted on 12/18/2019 6:43:19 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Hostage
I hear ya. It's about the same as the difference between "Constitutional right" and "Constitutionally protected right".

One is not correct, the other one is.

27 posted on 12/18/2019 6:43:27 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The GOP never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Yes... and the Aaron Burrs are now figuring out how and where they can.... run! We are coming. In the millions, armed with the Constitution, and the brilliance of the Founders.

The Constitution is not a “living document” to re-define the meaning of what can actually have to BE, as Articles of Impeachment, instead of the raving drug and booze addled rantings of crazed neo socialists and Marxists. They have just impeached..... THEMSELVES! That is the message which they do not seem to have understood as yet. It will begin to dawn on them.... like buyer’s remorse in a VD ward filled with whores and pimps.


28 posted on 12/18/2019 6:44:21 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Hostage
But impeachment means removal upon conviction.

No offense, but you're flat-out wrong about this. Give it up.

29 posted on 12/18/2019 6:46:23 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.”)
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To: Hostage

From Wikipedia: Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body levels charges against a government official. Impeachment does not in itself remove the official definitively from office; it is similar to an indictment in criminal law, and thus it is essentially the statement of charges against the official. Whereas in some countries the individual is provisionally removed, in others they can remain in office during the trial. Once an individual is impeached, they must then face the possibility of conviction on the charges by a legislative vote, which is separate from the impeachment, but flows from it, and a judgment which convicts the official on the articles of impeachment entails the official’s definitive removal from office.


30 posted on 12/18/2019 6:46:33 PM PST by Oklahoma
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To: Hostage

The House has accused him...unlike Clinton, he will be acquited of all charges...

An accusation is not a conviction. Clinton was determined to be guilty, yet his sentence did include removal from office.


31 posted on 12/18/2019 6:47:27 PM PST by Hypo2
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To: Hostage

and the people will still decide...


32 posted on 12/18/2019 6:48:43 PM PST by Hypo2
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To: Hypo2

Simply another pussy hat march......this will define this party for years to come.


33 posted on 12/18/2019 6:50:11 PM PST by blackberry1
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To: Hostage

What in the name of all that is holy are you talking about? Better yet, what are you smoking?


34 posted on 12/18/2019 6:50:42 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: Hostage
Disagree. A vote for impeachment is not impeachment. It is a vote to commence the process of impeachment.

With all due respect, your opinion is irrelevant. The Constitution makes clear that impeachment by the House and conviction and removal by the Senate are two different things.

35 posted on 12/18/2019 6:51:15 PM PST by KevinB ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin)
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To: Hostage

I heard Hillary is at the White House right now measuring for Curtains ,LOL


36 posted on 12/18/2019 6:52:36 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: dfwgator

“Nixon probably would have been removed, and he knew it.”

A group of Republican Senators went to Nixon and told him he would be convicted. He resigned and of course there was no vote to impeach held.


37 posted on 12/18/2019 6:54:03 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: Hostage

Impeachment means to bring charges against an official. It does not mean removal from office. Read the Constitution before you are tempted to write something that makes you look like an illiterate buffoon.


38 posted on 12/18/2019 6:55:08 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (SU4C)
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To: Hypo2

That is all wrong too.


39 posted on 12/18/2019 6:56:16 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

how so?


40 posted on 12/18/2019 6:57:03 PM PST by Hypo2
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