Posted on 12/13/2019 7:44:55 AM PST by mairdie
A few notes scribbled in his notebook are all the German composer left of his symphony before his death in 1827.
Now, a team of musicologists and programmers is racing to complete a version of the piece using sophisticated computer software to predict what Beethoven had planned.
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I predict a syncopated, jazzy little number.
They took the credit for your second symphony
Rewritten by machine on new technology
And now I understand the problems you can see
Oh-a-oh I met your children Oh-a-oh
What did you tell them? Video killed the radio star
Video killed the radio star
Was it good for you? If not, I’ve got this special AI device that can complete the task.
how do we know that he wasn’t about to segue into grunge or emo?
His late quartets -- Opp. 127, 130, 131, 132 and 135 -- were almost a century ahead of his contemporaries. Music had to go through the whole Wagner thing and World War I before Beethoven's late quartets made sense and went mainstream.
I have little hope for this project.
1827 and now they are racing. Did they find a deadline in the Mayan calendar?
I have the utmost confidence in the mission -HAL.
I don’t have the recording right in front of me, but a musicologist named Barry Cooper completed a performing version of the Beethoven 10th in the late 1980s.
Conductor Wyn Morris and the London Symphony orchestra recorded it.
It’s been on my shelf for a long time, and I have to say it made very little impression on me. I’m a serious Beethoven collector and have upwards of 20 complete symphony cycles with different orchestras and conductors.
So, I have my doubts about this AI project.
I’m by no means close-minded about posthumous collaborations. For example, Gustav Mahler left such extensive sketches for his 10th symphony that there are now several performing versions that have won acceptance. Basically, his work was complete enough that all that was needed was to flesh out the orchestration.
I suspect most classical buffs know that Mozart’s pupil Franz Sussmayr completed his celebrated Requiem. And Puccini’s last opera “Turandot” — including the famous tenor aria “Nessun Dorma” — was completed by Franco Alfano.
Musicologists like to disparage the work of these two composers as inferior to the parts written by the deceased. I prefer to appreciate them for being faithful to the original.
Still, the idea of a computer generated Beethoven 10th leaves me pretty cold.
As long as it does not bear Beethoven’s name.
To make this work, they will have to make the computer nearly totally deaf.
Racing? It's been around for 192 years, and it ain't going anywhere this week!
His last words were “Rosebud”.
I'm more inclined to think he was thinking Reggae
My computer isn’t deaf. It just pretends not to be able to hear me...or see me for that matter.
A spy in your midst!
Schroeder.
From Peanuts.
I think nothing will happen of note. A machine can simulate based on a calculation of style — what does all Beethoven music stylistically have in common that makes it sound like Beethoven — but then it’s just something that is watered down, the common denominator derivative from many sources. There is no inspiration that sees the greatness of an idea. There is no creative impulse; no excitement that discriminates between good ideas and great ideas. There is nothing of Beethoven’s heart and soul in the music. And you need heart and soul to make great music.
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