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1499: Edward, Earl of Warwick, the last Plantagenet claimant
Executed Today ^ | November 28th, 2019

Posted on 12/01/2019 3:28:37 PM PST by robowombat

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1 posted on 12/01/2019 3:28:37 PM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Just finished reading a book about Edward I. Quite instructive.


2 posted on 12/01/2019 3:37:00 PM PST by sauropod (Chick Fil-A: Their spines turned out to be as boneless as their chicken patties.)
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A couple or so of the Plantagenet kings were buried in France.

Richard the Lionheart, among them, I believe.


3 posted on 12/01/2019 3:49:28 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: robowombat

1499. Seems like only yesterday.

P.S. It was Trump’s fault. Heard it on NPR./s


4 posted on 12/01/2019 3:50:30 PM PST by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen votig & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: Calvin Locke

Didn’t they find Richard III remains under a parking lot? Think England..
Recent too from what i recall..


5 posted on 12/01/2019 3:53:45 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: robowombat

And thus was the democrat party born. The results matter no what.


6 posted on 12/01/2019 3:54:49 PM PST by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: sauropod
"Just finished reading a book about Edward I. Quite instructive."

He and his wife Eleanor of Castile are supposed to be my 19th great-grandparents.

When Edward IV died, we all know that Richard, Duke of Gloucester had Edward's son's named "bastards" so they wouldn't be in line to the throne. George, 1st Duke of Clarence, (next in line to the throne after Edward), had been locked away, found guilty of treason, and he was done away with in 1478. So why did Richard take the throne, instead of pursuing it for Teddy, who would have been next in line after his father George? There are plenty of people who don't think Richard murdered his nephews, but I'm not one of them. I believe he did have them killed, but no one has ever answered the question as to why he didn't pursue the crown for Teddy? Richard's only legitimate son Edward lived to be 10 years of age, dying in 1484, a year after Edward IV died.

7 posted on 12/01/2019 3:58:34 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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Easy, George was attainted and therefore his son lost his inheritance rights.


8 posted on 12/01/2019 4:00:59 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: robowombat

Teddy’s sister Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury was executed by Henry VIII in 1541.


9 posted on 12/01/2019 4:05:33 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Calvin Locke

Recall that the Normans from french Normandy invaded England and defeated the Anglo saxons. Ever since 1066 the throne of England has had french ancestors sitting until the Germans took over the throne before Victoria’s father was in the throne.


10 posted on 12/01/2019 4:11:12 PM PST by Okeydoker
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Thanks!

Recall that the Normans from french Normandy invaded England and defeated the Anglo saxons. Ever since 1066 the throne of England has had french ancestors sitting until the Germans took over the throne before Victoria’s father was in the throne.


11 posted on 12/01/2019 4:24:40 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Lincoln: The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. They inherited it that way!)
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To: mass55th

Cool. According to my family tree, Edward and Eleanor are my 24th great grandparents. I have been watching a couple of documentaries about the Plantagenets on youtube, I think one of them is called The Devil’s Brood. Very interesting family.


12 posted on 12/01/2019 4:30:25 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: rainee
Yep:

English Car Park Where Remains Of Richard III Were Found Declared A Monument

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Circa 1480, King Richard III (1452-1485).

13 posted on 12/01/2019 4:39:00 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Okeydoker

William IV who was King before Victoria was Queen was her Uncle, not her father.


14 posted on 12/01/2019 4:44:43 PM PST by EvilCapitalist (If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement. -Ronald Reagan)
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Sharon Kay Penman wrote a book called Devil’s Brood. She is one of my favorite authors.


15 posted on 12/01/2019 4:46:16 PM PST by EvilCapitalist (If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement. -Ronald Reagan)
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To: mass55th

You’re related to my husband’s family. Not sure the degree of kinship but his mom is descended from Edmund Plantagenet who was a brother of Edward I.

The only thing keeping him from the throne is my inability to choose a tiara.


16 posted on 12/01/2019 4:47:46 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: rainee

Interesting theory by Josephine Tey about Richard III and the disappearance of the princes in the tower, his nephews: if Richard had had them killed, all he would have to do is produce the same smothered bodies: poor boys, dead of a fever, I really am king now.

Whereas, when Henry VII comes in with his army, he really should restore the elder prince to the throne, or produce a body, dead some time back. But he can’t do that; the princes disappear for good, and he marries their sister, and adds the boys’ murder to Richard’s indictment.

Imagine Shakespeare casting you as a villain. What a way to be remembered.


17 posted on 12/01/2019 4:55:49 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Recall that the Normans from french Normandy invaded England and defeated the Anglo saxons. Ever since 1066 the throne of England has had french ancestors sitting until the Germans took over the throne before Victoria’s father was in the throne.

Normans are not Gallic "French," but are more correctly decedents of "Norsemen," aka Vikings. They are Scandinavians.

FReegards!

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18 posted on 12/01/2019 5:02:24 PM PST by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: rainee
I vaguely remember something about that.

I read an 1880s wine travelogue through Champagne and other sparkling wine regions (off Gutenberg), and it mentioned the Platagenets being buried 20 miles away or so.

In the heart of Protestant France, too, iirc.

19 posted on 12/01/2019 5:07:57 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: robowombat

bump for later read


20 posted on 12/01/2019 5:08:14 PM PST by BlueLancer (Orchides Forum Trahite - Cordes Et Mentes Veniant)
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