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Image at link shows city hall pock marked with bullet holes.

This occurred 40 miles southwest of Eagle Pass, Texas. While WAPO's lede says that the cartel battled security forces and army soldiers, I've been seeing indications that the cartels are supported by the Mexican army. In this instance, WAPO says security forces on the ground were aided by army helicopters. I say - which side were those army helicopters "aiding"? Flying over a gun battle - hard to tell.

1 posted on 12/01/2019 10:13:17 AM PST by ransomnote
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Further, this supposed cartel seems to be laying claim to territory along the border by driving into town and shooting up city hall. Why?


2 posted on 12/01/2019 10:14:16 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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“armed groups battle over drug routes, gas theft, extortion, kidnaping and other illegal activities.” Anyone who does not think this bleeds over the boarder is niave.


5 posted on 12/01/2019 10:22:01 AM PST by exnavy (american by birth and choice, I love this country!)
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Their math doesn’t “add up:!

However, the results have a good ratio!

The security forces, backed by army helicopters, chased the gunmen down in an operation that stretched into Sunday morning. The dead included four state police officers and 17 alleged cartel members.


6 posted on 12/01/2019 10:24:18 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Nanzi Pelosi Thinks/Says Americans Are Too STUPID To Elect Their President! Time for #DCEXIT!)
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At this pace it is only a matter of time before it spills north of the border.


7 posted on 12/01/2019 10:24:25 AM PST by NorseViking
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This is our future, when the Democrats, on the raw strength of third-world replacement-population votes, permanently capture the Electoral College. Then they will finally end the USA that they hate so much. In it’s place, a border-less, nationality-free, coast-to-coat “sanctuary” open-zone.


10 posted on 12/01/2019 11:48:12 AM PST by Dagnabitt
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The cartels recruit from the Mexican military.


11 posted on 12/01/2019 11:55:52 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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They’re not supported by the Mexican army. It’s simply that the Army is outgunned and outfoxed by the cartels, which have a lot more power in Mexico (including within the political class) than does a mere national army.

If AMLO had any common sense, he’d seize this opportunity to have the US declare them terrorists and come in and deal with them...btw, some of the trucks, which actually bore cartel logos on their doors, just like an army, had Texas plates.


13 posted on 12/01/2019 1:07:26 PM PST by livius
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The feds are watching some of those border towns pretty closely. Cartel bosses and their partners in the U.S. have been disseminating conspiracy theories claiming that President Trump’s federal government is supporting the cartels. They want civilian residents to be afraid of informing DEA agents.

Eagle Pass, Texas
From Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Pass,_Texas#Lawsuit

Lawsuit
The City of Eagle Pass was sued by the US government in 2008 to gain access to the land and construct a fence on the United States–Mexico border.[8]

Maverick County corruption scandal
An ongoing public corruption, bid-rigging, and kickback investigation by the FBI and Texas Department of Public Safety has resulted in the arrest and imprisonment of all four Maverick County commissioners, one justice of the peace, and multiple local government employees and businessmen since October 2012,...

City of Eagle Pass gasoline card theft and fraud
On August 8, 2012, a federal grand jury in the U.S. District Court in Del Rio indicted five Eagle Pass residents, including a former Public Works Department employee,...

Former city manager charged with lying to the FBI
On March 30, 2017, Hector Chavez, Sr., the former Eagle Pass city manager, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI regarding a bribery scheme involving public contracts in Maverick County. Chavez, with the company Chace Management, was charged with receiving $20,000 from the owner of the engineering firm Hejl, Lee and Associates to bribe a county commissioner...


14 posted on 12/01/2019 1:16:33 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Did you see the photo of the pickup truck owned by the Cartel of the Northeast here? It’s marked CDN and has an emergency light bar, spotlights, bull bar and other modifications. Looks pretty official.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/mexico-cartel-member-gunbattle-police-texas-border


15 posted on 12/01/2019 1:26:54 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Are the Cartels attempting to now juridically occupy territory? That would be a step toward rebellion and civil war for de jure as well as de facto control of the country. Are ready for the Estados Unidos de Sinaloa?


16 posted on 12/01/2019 1:29:35 PM PST by arthurus (ccx..c|__|o...<>0|oI0:,v|-)
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CDN is a small outfit. That’s probably why the government troops in Coahuila fought them.

The Jalisco New Generation Cartel is one to watch. It’s big and has developed a sophisticated info war system (propaganda) including videos and social media for promotions. Quite the up and coming quasi-government. It has moved into many parts of the U.S. and is even working with many U.S. white trash addicts/dealers and some authorities in small towns.

Map of CJNG Drug Cartel influence in the U.S.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CJNG_-_US_Influence_Map_-2018.jpg

Jalisco New Generation Cartel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalisco_New_Generation_Cartel


19 posted on 12/01/2019 2:19:26 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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This is allegedly a one of the involved cartel trucks...Note the Texas plates...

20 posted on 12/01/2019 2:29:01 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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A little paint and stucco and the city hall will look like new.

21 posted on 12/01/2019 2:30:52 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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I suspect that cartels are moving to control new territory along the border, as barrier is being built in the previously most valuable stretches.

The three biggest corridors for illegal traffic - San Diego, the Rio Grande Valley and Yuma - will all be substantially closed by the end of next year, with Trump-style super barrier system. The cartels must prepare new routes, where the terrain allows.

The more than 200 mile unfenced gap along the Rio Grande in Texas, between Falcon Lake (South of Laredo) and Box Canyon (just North of Del Rio), is the biggest and best open stretch of border for smuggling left in Texas after the Rio Grande Valley gets closed off - arguably it will then be the best stretch of the whole US/Mexico border for illegal traffic, after the currently funded barrier building is finished (end of 2020).

52 miles of that stretch already has this year’s money budgeted against it (but that contract has not yet been awarded).

The attack described in this article, in Villa Union, Coahuila; is on the highway to Guerrero, just around the Northern edge of where that new barrier will run (52 miles running North from the Colombia Laredo Port of Entry).

We should do everything we can to get the cartels fighting with each other. The shifting smuggling routes will naturally make them butt heads over turf.


24 posted on 12/01/2019 2:57:05 PM PST by BeauBo
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30 posted on 12/01/2019 4:58:21 PM PST by bitt (You can't get rich in politics unless you're a crook. Harry Truman)
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Good thing Trump is building the wall. I wonder what kind of border security is near this area.


31 posted on 12/01/2019 5:14:52 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the vItolirtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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(3) US Carrier Battle Groups Off Mexico! - 11/28/2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhVa5_m-qO4


34 posted on 12/01/2019 11:10:36 PM PST by Texan4Life (satire)
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