Skip to comments.With Trump’s planned rollback, it could soon cost more energy to wash Thanksgiving dishes
Posted on 11/28/2019 3:41:23 PM PST by simpson96
Energy Department wants to make dishwashers great again with faster-cleaning appliances
Peoples time is a nonrenewable resource.
Thats the argument pushed by the Trump administration as it moves to roll back energy-efficiency requirements that slowed down dishwashers and other household appliances, according to one Energy Department official quoted this fall when the proposal was open to response.
The department has now said it will move ahead with the rule-making change that came about with prodding by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, known for its activism refuting climate-change statistics. The group supports a new class of fast dishwashers that can complete a cycle in an hour or less.
Other groups had chimed in, too.
Dishwashers used to clean a full load of filthy dishes in under an hour. But now they take an average of two and a half hours and STILL leave dishes dirty! reads one online petition to push the energy department to action. It was promoted by FreedomWorks, a libertarian arm of a group co-founded by the Koch brothers. The petition, titled Make Dishwashers Great Again, is just one part of a broad campaign coordinated by conservative organizations, some with ties, like the Kochs, to fossil-fuel companies.
The rule would exempt new dishwashers from the prior energy-efficiency standards. Its not a small market: This year, there were nearly 9 million dishwashers sold in the U.S.
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Exactly why the headline is misleading. Trump is doing nothing more than getting the government out of the appliance micromanagement business.
Market Watch stopped being a reliable source of any relevant news 2 decades ago.
Well, STPP is food grade. TSP is much harsher and can be corrosive to your appliance.
Detergents with phosphates are difficult to find depending on where you live, and overpriced. Usually you have to buy the commercial stuff.
One plus of buying STPP on its own is that you can add it to your washing machine as well as your dishwasher. I don’t think there are any clothes detergents on the retail shelf with phosphates in them.
Lack of phosphates also causes crud to build up in your dishwasher, hurting an already inefficient device thanks to the EnviroTards. As well as shortening the life of the appliance.
Our ancient washing machine started leaking, so I bought a new one. My wife despiseq the new one. Between water and electrical energy saving requirements, it doesn’t clean as well as what we had. It takes several minutes to sense the load. I guess it is determining how much water to add. My wife is frustrated because it won’t allow her to manipulate the water height. Soap sometimes remains on the items when it is done.
I have a brand new one. Just set it for heavy duty, hot wash, steam and dry. 3 hours and 25 minutes for that cycle. Stupid thing wont even dry them all the way. But it meets all the energy standards. Stupid!!!
This is spades!!! Just bought an older house with all the old water flow hook ups. Washer fills up to the top if needs be, and quick. I was going to put on new hoses for the washer and they're so much thinner than what I got, forget about it! Wife wanted shower head on a hose. Switched that out and it trickles. Put back on old shower head. Sink faucet broke. Plumber put in new one. Half the damned pressure! Should have just put up with the drip.
Well, if water usage is unlimited and BTUs are unlimited, sure.
omg....I put in on short wash...Cascade Pods....no heat dry. I open it as soon as it stops the wash rinse cycle.
I’m sure it’s only about half an hour...And they’re spotless...
But taking twice as long, one uses more energy. Unless the rate of using energy is half, or less.
And if the device has to be used twice... forgetabotit.
Is it the dishwasher or the soap which had a vital ingredient removed by regulation?
It was phosphorus.
So nice that MarketWatch is concerned about how much we spend on energy.
How about we let the MARKET decide? Have the manufacturers make BOTH types of dishwashers? Model A can dry in 2-1/2 hours and cost 10 cents to run. Model B can dry in 1 hour and cost 12 cents to run. Then the CONSUMER can decide which is best for them.
I never understood how a machine that takes over twice as long to run with a weaker heating element would cost less to run than a machine that dries more quickly with a stronger heating element. It defies common sense.
I can just see the pointed-headed academics at DOE rubbing their hands with glee and musing “This will really bug those deplorables! We’ll make their dishwashers run REALLY long for no improvement in anything.”
Last dishwasher we had in the 90s worked great and lasted forever. The one we bought 5 years ago is crap. Doesn’t work half as well
Rachel Koning Beals does seem to be one of those who KNOWS exactly how you should live your life and exactly WHAT you should buy and precisely HOW MUCH energy you should consume.
Shouldn’t we be thankful that there are so my of her type looking out for us and enriching our lives with their wisdom and concern?
Low flow toilets suck.
Buy and use some TSP in the dishwasher and it will work again. the guberment made them take out the TSP from the dishwasher soap.
Only Marxistwatch could come up with a headline as stupid as this. I honestly don't know how anybody could possibly be solvent if they followed the advice of Marxistwatch. I don't think any of the people who comment there, or write articles for them have ever invested a single dime in the stock market.
Exactly how does one "invest" in communism, which is what they advocate?
They really help getting those packing peanuts that come with my ammo boxes roaring. I could send smoke signals into Canada with what they produce.
“I want to go back to high flow, high pressure shower heads, sink faucets and toilets the way they used to be.”
EXACTLY! Plenty of water where I live, but faucets run soooo slow.
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