Posted on 11/27/2019 11:25:16 AM PST by Red Badger
They are talking battery cycles, not drive cycles. Even if the range is only 500 miles vice the 600/800 claimed, 2,000 cycles is a million miles, longer than a typical diesel engine’s life.
no need to get testy here texas- calm down- I’ve expendable to you why I think the two claims in the line are separate issues regarding the capabilities of the battery—
Your post:
Nikola’s hydrogen-electric fuel cell trucks could surpass 1,000 miles between stops and top off in 15 minutes
NO BATTERY TO TOP OFF
[[I’ve expendable]]
Lol=- I’ve explained-
When EVs can come even close to that (400 mile range-recharge in 15 minutes) I might consider one.Until then,no way Jose.
...No engineering details, color me skeptical
Until patents are issued, that’s a wise strategy
Understand, But they are the ones marketing
Pigs in Pokes are extremely common
what are you saying, Hydrogen electric doesn’t have to recharge batteries?
Perhaps I don’t understand this- are you suggesting all they have to do is top off the fuel cell with water and they’re good to go for another 1000 miles?
The discussion was about recharging time- not topping off the hydro cell- The fella posted that in response to my question about recharging time- i pointed out that his comment was about topping off, not charging a battery to full charge-
What am i missing here?
Certainly a big deal if true. While it's still a tiny fraction of the 12,000 Wh/kg of gasoline, there are factors that help level the playing field. An electric drive train is approximately 3X as efficient as current IC engine drive trains. Also, it's easy enough to increase the size of the battery to meet range requirements at this energy density. "Cost to own and operate" is yet to be seen, and the the lack of charging infrastructure and inconvenience of charging are still factors. Considering the path we are on, electric vehicles WILL be shoved down our throat over the next decade or two. New technology like this will at least make it a little easier to swallow.
A guy who worked for me once said, “If I ever had an erection that lasted longer than 4 hours, I’d sure as heck call my doctor. Ya gotta brag to SOMEBODY!”
Hydrogen fuel.
Hence the importance of acknowledging & allowing that technology must go thru a “dirty” phase before achieving a superior “clean” phase. Yes, naysayers, EVs involve toxic materials - but given enough demand we can find better solutions.
...and time to sell Tesla stock! If many OEM’s have access to this technology they’ll all accelerate their EV programs. I’d have a hard time not buying one if I can go 500-600 miles between charging, especially if it makes the price plummet. This would make an EV much more viable, I’d argue it might tip the scale for most.
Yeah? What’s the point? Hydrogen electric fuel cell vehicles don’t need recharging? Do i have electric vehicle types mixed up or something?
Hydrogen station explodes, Toyota halts sales of fuel cell cars, is this the end?
https://electrek.co/2019/06/11/hydrogen-station-explodes-toyota-halts-sales-fuel-cell-cars/
Lol-
article based on press release ... most likely this is just another in a very long line of magic battery fairy tales during the last 40 years ...
apparently my mistake was that this article in the thread and the link i posted are talking two different technologies?
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/259195-tesla-semi-500-mile-range-cheaper-diesel-quick-charge
This link talks about charging the batteries- which will take about 30 minutes to add about 400 mile range- I wasn’t making the connection that the thread article was talking about a different technology than the one i posted to in above link apparently-
The article is discussing two different technologies...one a "full-battery" system, and the other a hydrogen-fuel-cell system. It is the fuel cell system that can "top off" in 15 minutes (it is just filling a hydrogen tank). The "full-battery" will take longer...I didn't see the spec for that (but then I didn't read the whole thing in depth either).
For my money, I will put it into that oily stuff that keeps coming out of the ground. It is like magic, it is likely an endless supply, and the CO2 released is a bonus for life.
[[The article is discussing two different technologies...one a “full-battery” system, and the other a hydrogen-fuel-cell system.]]
Thanks, I caught my mistake- wish texas had just came out and said that right off the bat- I couldn’t understand why he was pointing out hydrogen electric- then it dawned on me the article i posted to was not about hydrogen electric- I got the two mixed up- tired mind didn’t catch it unfortunately- thanks for the explanation-
Thanks
Like C 3PO said, It’s beyond my capacity
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