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Man in the High Castle Question
Self | 11/18/2019 | Self

Posted on 11/18/2019 4:48:27 PM PST by LS

I am in the middle of season 2 of The Man in the High Castle.

Yesterday someone posted a warning that season 4 wrapped up horribly.

My question to you fans, is there any entertainment value in the rest of season 2 & 3?


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: nazis; television
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To: LS

Following the plot is hard work but I’m on Ep 7 of S4 so I’m going to stick it out.


21 posted on 11/18/2019 6:53:27 PM PST by Inkie
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To: LS

I stick by my comment that the last half of season 4 is a PC, black communist party wet dream. The ending for the Japanese occupation is so ridiculous that not even a LSD induced crazed PKD would have been capable of such hallucinations. The ending in the Reich is a non ending (I would assume there’ll be some kind of sequel). I’m a big PKD fan and really enjoyed seasons 1-3 but the last half of season 4 pretty much ruined it for me.


22 posted on 11/18/2019 7:31:27 PM PST by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

Does Dick write a real resolution in his novel?


23 posted on 11/18/2019 7:46:44 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

My memory is that the novel does have resolution, but I haven’t read it in decades.

I would encourage anyone to read lots of PKD stuff. His short stories are totally amazing, and the novels like Time Out of Joint and Ubik are wonderful.

Another great science fiction writer influenced by PKD is Robert Charles Wilson—every one of his novels are great stuff.

If you click on my name you will see my discussion of a bunch of science fiction classics.


24 posted on 11/18/2019 7:55:28 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: LS

Nope. The problem I have with it is the literal PC insanity. There are scenes that are so bad I wanted to retch. Like others said seasons 1 and 2 were very good. It really starts to go off the rails in season 3 but still good. First half of 4 your reaction will be, what the heck. When you start to ask yourself, why am I watching this, just quit. If you do it that way you’ll just miss the non ending and gut curdling PC.


25 posted on 11/18/2019 8:03:50 PM PST by hardspunned
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To: LS

The series becomes a grindingly emotionally tough to follow-— kind of looking for a plot line (not in the books this way at all, in spite of Philip K. Dick’s personal lunacy and drug abuse and a lot else)

First two parts told a story and quest and the “neutral zone” concept that is Colorado. Politically it would NEVER have happened that Japan and Germany would divide up the US— no, they would have continued the fighting— because that is who they were— constant militarists and expansionists.

The characters are not well filled out— they seem cardboard, or even “stereotypical”. Overall, a very depressing series— makes one glad the history turned out the way it did, and for all the right reasons— America’s greatness and worldwide teamwork.


26 posted on 11/18/2019 11:14:37 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: LS

I liked season 1 and 2. I couldn’t make it through the first episode of season 3 when the serious PC kicked in.


27 posted on 11/18/2019 11:50:09 PM PST by pops88
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To: LS

If you enjoy the production quality and the acting I would stick it out through 2,3. Season 4 sucks rocks, oh and I never read the book.


28 posted on 11/19/2019 12:00:23 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Ginsberg didn't kill herself.)
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To: LS

One of my all time favorite books. The series got boring midway through season 2.

Should have given it to Ridley Scott for a three hour movie.


29 posted on 11/19/2019 12:02:59 AM PST by angmo
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To: Pelham

It is very lossely based on the book. The book is a thing of wonder.


30 posted on 11/19/2019 12:05:29 AM PST by angmo
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To: cgbg

Thanks. Look like I found a new author.

BTW, even though it’s “Stephen King,” the series “Mr. Mercedes” was pretty good through three seasons, as was “The Expanse.” Right now doing “The Dublin Murders.” Hard to follow cuz of the damn accents, but pretty good.


31 posted on 11/19/2019 4:51:18 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Pelham
"Does the series vary much from the book?"

It follows the same trajectory, at least through season 1 and most of 2, I think. No idea about 3 and 4.

32 posted on 11/19/2019 7:40:29 AM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed...)
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To: LS
It is a bit like that movie Highlander, where no sequel could ever have made sense. Naturally they made at least 2 sequels and a TV series.

The High Castle should never have seen a 2nd Season. I was quite surprised to realize a 2nd and 3rd.

I watched it because I absolutely loved that whole June Cleaver being a Nazi business. The Main Street in the 50s and the Eisenhower Era technology being congruent with the Third Reich ideals was simply compelling.

It was for me fun in a perverse way.

33 posted on 11/19/2019 8:13:38 AM PST by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
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Yes, I liked the TV miniseries “Fatherland” as well. Counterfactual history is just interesting at all levels, and indeed WW II was a close run thing in so many ways.


34 posted on 11/19/2019 12:02:55 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS
Yes, I liked the TV miniseries “Fatherland” as well. Counterfactual history is just interesting at all levels, and indeed WW II was a close run thing in so many ways.

"It Happened Here", about a fictional Nazi occupation of Britain was very well done.

35 posted on 11/19/2019 12:03:40 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: LS

I disagree. I’ve watched the previous episodes and am half way through the latest season. This is art.

The Black Communist Rebellion seems, to me, like the only ideology left for the black characters, to participate in this drama. After all, this program IS the actual Nazis, against actual Imperial Japan, against actual American resistance that isn’t Communist.

I suppose to somebody that the Black characters got screwed for having to play the Communists, but that suggests that the White characters that played Nazis were also screwed. It’s a TV show, and it’s fun, and I have no idea how it will end. That’s what I ask from a TV show.

Y’all have a good night.


36 posted on 11/20/2019 5:02:28 PM PST by Crabby Curmudgeon
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