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Trump now has opening to pull US out of Paris climate pact
Associated Press ^ | November 3, 2019 | Seth Borenstein

Posted on 11/03/2019 5:36:50 PM PST by Olog-hai

For more than two years President Donald Trump has talked about pulling the United States out of the landmark Paris climate agreement . Starting Monday he finally can do something about it.

Even then, though, the withdrawal process takes a year and wouldn’t become official until at least the day after the 2020 presidential election. […]

The terms of the deal say no country can withdraw in the first three years. So Monday is the first time the U.S. could actually start the withdrawal process, which begins with a letter to the United Nations. And it doesn’t become official for a year after that, which leads to the day after the election.

If someone other than Trump wins in 2020, the next president could get back in the deal in just 30 days and plan to cut carbon pollution, said Andrew Light, a former Obama State Department climate negotiator now at the nonprofit World Resources Institute. …

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To: Olog-hai

Nonsense.

We’re out and there’s nothing any power on this earth can do about it.


21 posted on 11/03/2019 6:46:18 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MrEdd

We were never part of the Paris Climate Crap, so Trump doesn’t need to pull out of it.

Let me remind you that the left doesn’t give a shit! Obama if there was a 3rd term would have kept us in, ratification or not. Trump needs to do it just as a CYA,


22 posted on 11/03/2019 6:59:43 PM PST by Bommer (2020 - Vote all incumbent congressmen and senators out! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
That's odd, the PMS have been telling us for a couple years that President Trump has *already* taken us out of it. Thanks Olog-hai.

Partisan Media Shills update.


23 posted on 11/03/2019 7:16:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Olog-hai

I thought the senate did not vote on Paris?


24 posted on 11/03/2019 7:19:18 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Bommer
No, doing stupid shit to cater to the left does not cover ones ass.
And certainly not something so utterly braindead as to pretend along with them that we are bound in some way.

Intellectually that idea is on the same order as sharpening an axe, handing it to someone who wants to kill you, and then telling them “ see this? We won't be having any of this.”

Now, I understand that you honestly believe that sort of thing is a good idea, and certainly that thought was the genesis of the deem passed move with Obamacare so Nancy Pelosi agrees with you, but me?

I say it's all garbage without a prerequisite Senate ratification and I would never even give them a chance to try.

I guess we are just going to disagree.

25 posted on 11/03/2019 7:25:06 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: Olog-hai
Maybe Trump will tweet a clarification on the matter since all news stories say he pulled out of the alleged treaty in 2017.

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"In accordance with Article 28 of the Paris Agreement, the earliest possible effective withdrawal date by the United States cannot be before November 4, 2020, four years after the Agreement came into effect in the United States and one day after the 2020 U.S. presidential election. The White House later clarified that the U.S. will abide by the four-year exit process.[5] Until the withdrawal takes effect, the United States may be obligated to maintain its commitments under the Agreement, such as the requirement to continue reporting its emissions to the United Nations.[6]" - wiki

26 posted on 11/03/2019 7:33:57 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: 2banana

Have you not seen Greta the Viking Warrior Princess. We have to do what she wants. She is so powerful she can travel without using carbon. Wow.


27 posted on 11/03/2019 7:38:24 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

the whole idea of article 28 was to try to stop Trump withdrawing. not only does the President need to send off the necessary letter Monday, but voters must ensure he is re-elected in 2020. if only Americans realised how they were to pay the trillions for the Green New Deal etc:

3 Sept 2016: Reuters: U.S., China ratify Paris climate agreement
by Valerie Volcovici and Ayesha Rascoe in WASHINGTON, Alister Doyle in OSLO, David Stanway in SHANGHAI
U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is a strong supporter of the accord, but her Republican counterpart Donald Trump has dismissed man-made climate change as a hoax and says he will abandon the Paris agreement if elected.
Countries that ratify the deal will have to wait for three years after it has gone into legal force before they can begin the process of withdrawing from it, according to the agreement signed in Paris...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-climatechange-idUSKCN11901W


28 posted on 11/03/2019 7:58:09 PM PST by MAGAthon
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To: Army Air Corps
This all came about because of a republican. Sen Bob Corker.
The "Corker Maneuver" was actually quite clever.

There was no Iran Deal without Corker's maneuver. (This would never pass as a treaty). The Corker scheme allowed the Iran agreement,(not treaty) to let the senate cede their constitutional advice and consent role as this agreement was not presented as a Treaty.

Congress voted for the Iran Review act. It only required a simple majority to pass.

What this did, was force any other vote on Iran, to go thru cloture in the senate (which happened in sept 2015 a couple of times and failed.) and pass the house.
If it had passed Congress, Obama would have vetoed it and Congress would had to override by 2/3 rds.
The votes weren't there for that, so there was no way this Iran deal was going to be sabotaged.
If Corker's maneuver fails, there is no Iran deal.

I have no idea where I picked up this info, so I can't properly attribute.
29 posted on 11/03/2019 8:08:19 PM PST by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: Olog-hai

What crap.Just call up un and thell them the money gets cut a million a day till they agree to cut us loose.And it stays at the new level at which they agree.That would get their attention quick.


30 posted on 11/03/2019 9:02:46 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Olog-hai

So Senate vote?


31 posted on 11/03/2019 9:32:02 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: CincyRichieRich

IIRC, Obama prepaid into this “farce”.


32 posted on 11/03/2019 11:31:20 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Olog-hai

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/18/barack-obama-transfers-500m-to-green-climate-fund-in-attempt-to-protect-paris-deal


33 posted on 11/03/2019 11:34:34 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Olog-hai

We were never part of the “pact.” Obama failed to get it ratified so it died when he left office.


34 posted on 11/04/2019 12:21:55 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The thing was written that way


35 posted on 11/04/2019 2:14:01 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Olog-hai

“.... and plan to cut carbon pollution...”

CO2 is not pollution.


36 posted on 11/04/2019 6:58:48 AM PST by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: Olog-hai

Trump should cut the cord. What’s going to happen? Are the liberals going to hate him more? I don’t think so. The weakness of the liberal position is always that if they hate you, they hate to the nth degree so there’s no sense in trying to make them happy.


37 posted on 11/04/2019 7:20:52 AM PST by Crucial
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To: MAGAthon

No treaty should ever be signed if there are stipulations for your exit. Treaties come and go just like nations.


38 posted on 11/04/2019 9:03:44 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Olog-hai

Anyone wondering if Associated Press is Fake News, well here is your answer.


39 posted on 11/04/2019 12:31:58 PM PST by Company Man (AGITPROP IS ALL THEY'VE GOT)
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To: Olog-hai
If someone other than Trump wins in 2020, the next president could get back in the deal in just 30 days and plan to cut carbon pollution tax Americans into poverty and economic collapse.

Fixed it.

40 posted on 11/04/2019 1:06:38 PM PST by PROCON (When we allow 'progressives' control of the language, lies replace Truth)
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