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Vox: Meritocracy makes everyone miserable and we should get rid of it
Twitchy ^ | October 24, 2019 | Brett T

Posted on 10/25/2019 3:09:21 AM PDT by gattaca

Over at Vox today, Roge Karma examines the book “The Meritocracy Trap,” which posits that meritocracy — the idea that social and economic rewards should track talent, effort, and achievement — “produces radical inequality, stifles social mobility, and makes everyone — including the apparent winners — miserable.”

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To: gattaca
So some bridges might fall down, so what?

Diversity Uber Alles!


21 posted on 10/25/2019 4:53:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: gattaca

So, they want to build a better world (’better’ according to them)...but they don’t want to work for it.

Alrighty then...where’d I put that magic wand?


22 posted on 10/25/2019 5:05:36 AM PDT by moovova
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To: rbg81
Sure, get rid of the meritocracy.

Start with professional sports.

23 posted on 10/25/2019 5:24:29 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWTR,FCBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antfa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP)
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To: Sirius Lee

24 posted on 10/25/2019 5:27:42 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: gattaca

We should try out those ideas on the NBA and NFL first. See how it works out before we move it to doctors and building architects. Should be good for a few laughs for awhile.


25 posted on 10/25/2019 5:32:52 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: gattaca

.…….this is a spin on The Left’s “guaranteed” minimum income for all the lower income folks and nothing else.

Genetically, in recent decades, the US has produced millions of young people that would just as soon lay on momma’s couch all day and play video games! A guaranteed government check would sure help that situation.


26 posted on 10/25/2019 5:42:16 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Ken H

..AI instructors replace teachers and professors? The sooner the better.
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Not so fast.

Who writes the algorithm?
Who trains the AI?
What checks and balances will be placed upon that AI?

Google is an algorithm.
Algorithms determine who has access to various social media platforms.

My propane supplier uses an algorithm to determine the level of gas in my tank. They are always wrong.

When electrical power usage drops for a customer, the algorithm will trigger an inquiry.

Algorithms are at the heart of all prediction models used to forecast weather and climate.

I have yet to see changes to the algorithm when there is a conflict between prediction models and reality. Instead, there are ad hoc payment & other adjustments that can widely diverge from reality.


27 posted on 10/25/2019 5:51:23 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

I was thinking that also. Indoctrination can be just as effective in digital format. But even worse, It removes personal individualism and creates a one size fits all environment.

Like your propane situation, the algorithm doesn’t work because not every percentage gauge reads the same on different size tanks. For it to be accurate and effective as a tool they would all need to be the same size tank and be calibrated the same. This will never work with individuals.


28 posted on 10/25/2019 6:28:53 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
In every group there are those who are smarter, driven to work harder, longer and this results in success.

Those on the outside only see the results of success and resent and envy it. But they do not see the years of planning, hard work and sacrifice to achieve it.

In my younger years, I purchased fixer upper real estate. I worked an 8-5 job, went to the property at 6:00PM, worked until midnight fixing it, crashed in bed at 1:00 AM and started over the next day doing the same thing. As a result I was able to rent these houses to families, allowing them to live in a better neighborhood, send their kids to better schools and have better security than if they had bought in a neighborhood they could afford.

All this work was not observed by the outsider. What WAS seen was that in later years I drove a nice car, had moved to a nice house, and was able to travel. By some, it was assumed that I somehow got all this by exploiting tenants. I could not convince them otherwise because they were not willing to admit their own failure to achieve something similar.

29 posted on 10/25/2019 6:38:35 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: gattaca

How would we pay for a lack of Meritocracy if everyone abandoned it?


30 posted on 10/25/2019 6:44:53 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: dfwgator
I love Dr. Lexus - Justin Long had one of the best two-minute roles in cinematic history.

When I envision the head doctor at one of the new “Cannabis Dispensaries” that have recently popped up all over the West, Dr. Lexus is who I imagine. :)

31 posted on 10/25/2019 6:48:48 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Sirius Lee
If I ever need surgery I want to go to a doctor who is "just okay".

Or a bridge engineer.


32 posted on 10/25/2019 7:36:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: SES1066

That was only written in 1961?

I thought it was the early 1950s.

And, Diana Moon Glompers did beat Plugs Biden to shotgun use, though.


33 posted on 10/25/2019 7:48:46 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Openurmind

...the algorithm doesn’t work because not every percentage gauge reads the same on different size tanks. For it to be accurate and effective as a tool they would all need to be the same size tank and be calibrated the same.
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Also, the algo relies on straight-line extrapolations. In my case, there are variables, such as how much work I have during the winter, which affects propane usage in both house (hot water) and shop (heat)tanks.

I have wood heat and if I’m home, that is what I use. The propane is backup and used when no one is around to feed the stove.

For others, whether they are still working or traveling or have had a lot of company would affect heat and hot water use. Substituting a gas appliance for an electric one would also change the result.

As you said: algos assume uniformity and neither individuals nor their lives are uniform.


34 posted on 10/25/2019 10:22:17 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: gattaca

Sheesh.

5.56mm


35 posted on 10/25/2019 10:23:05 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: gattaca
Send me the big bucks!


36 posted on 10/25/2019 10:25:21 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: gattaca

The one unique thing about the American Experiment was the ability to move up and down the social/economic ladder...............


37 posted on 10/25/2019 10:54:06 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Candor7
...We do not create totalitarian society where everyone is guaranteed a modicum of “survival.”

Isn't that what the 'progressives' are after? Communism-lite, socialism for everyone. Works in Cuba.

38 posted on 10/26/2019 4:10:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Isn’t that what the ‘progressives’ are after?>>>

Exactly.

And we aim to stop them in their tracks.

So far , so good.


39 posted on 10/26/2019 4:33:11 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Fred Nerks
Isn't that what the 'progressives' are after? Communism-lite, socialism for everyone. Works in Cuba.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Markovits, the author of the subject book does not undrstand the true basis for meritocracy which is deeply and indelibly ingrained in the hearts of Americans. And it is here, not just as an idea, but a integral part of the American collective unconscious. That basis is declared here, and no one has said it better since:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,.........

( Declaration of Independence ,IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776) The progressives and socialist ideologues have no chance to bring such change to America, unless they are motivated to fight and die for it, and be victorious, an unlikely outcome.. Instead these Progressives seek to traduce Constitutional government and confuse the People, but their cause is lost simply because the majority of Americans are unwilling to trade liberty for the pittance of guaranteed survival. Meritocracy will always rule with its associated possibility of upward socio-economic mobility for those of merit.

40 posted on 10/26/2019 4:55:55 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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