Posted on 10/16/2019 1:21:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Quid pro quo or carrot and stick negotiating tactic? Is constitutional presidential authority over foreign policy now out of bounds?
I think the constitution pretty much leaves foreign policy to the president.
If true, and not saying he did, but how can the president be "out of bounds" if he did use foreign aid as a carrot to gain cooperation from a government that we have a treaty with in rooting out obvious corruption?
Same thing if he recalls diplomats or state dept employees that may be, or are suspected by him to be working against him or his policies. How can that possibly be out of bounds?
Same thing if he sends someone of his choice into a corrupt foreign country to get to the bottom of a vast three year conspiracy to commit election fraud against the American people, especially if that conspiracy to defraud includes the highest levels of the prior U.S. administration, ie, the prior president & vice president, two prior secretaries of state, plus prior directors of the FBI and CIA and several past and present top and mid level layers and employees of the CIA, FBI, DOJ, and State Dept, and the entire Democrat party, aided and abetted by the entire complicit liberal/progressive mainstream media, not to mention aided and abetted by the GOPe and nevertrumper corpse, er corps. How can that possibly be out of bounds when the constitution and we the people demand it to be done?
This is the entrenched deep state swamp that Trump was elected to drain. Can't depend on the swamp draining itself. And they won't go down the drain very easily. Gonna get ugly.
Same thing when the Commander-in-chief says enough of these non-declared, never-ending wars as is his constitutional authority. How can that possibly be out of bounds?
Talk about hand grenades. I think the president lifted the lid off the Pentagon and the Capitol and the entire military/industrial complex and tossed in a shi..., er shipload.
If the media, the democrats, the establishment, the congress and the entrenched deep state denizens don't like the very effective job our president is doing for we the people of the states who constitutionally elected him, they should get their act together and try to vote him out in Nov 2020.
That's the constitutional way.
That's the American way.
And the only way we the people will accept.
Yes, let them do their job. Debate the issue and declare war...or STFU
It’s all about POWER & CONTROL.
They dont give a damn whats constitutional and what isnt.
Trump took their power and now they will do whatever it takes to get it back, along with their willing accomplices in the media.....
I want Scuumer/Pelosi to explain to me why I should advise my son to join the military to fight and perhaps die in Stria.
Jim, you are 100% right. I was JUST thinking about this on the way home; this is a key responsibility of the president, to negotiate with foreign leaders to extend his policies and vision for America. That’s why these are supposed to be privileged communications.
The whistleblower statute does NOT Apply to the President, it applies to his subordinates. The IG should have Immediately ARRESTED the SPY along with every last person he had contact with regarding this issue. ALL of them should have been Declared Enemy Combatants and sent to GITMO forever!! This was, is and always has been a concerted effort to engage in a Seditious Conspiracy to Overthrow the United States Government, and there are a Lot of Players!
Give me 12 feet of rope and I can fix all of our problems.
Trump!
Can’t depend on the swamp draining itself.
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No we can’t.
We have to start replacing the people in Congress who have made a career out of fundamentally transforming our country against our will.
Every Amnesty Senator needs to be replaced with people who side with the citizens and the rule of law.
If there’s one thing that Trump hates, it’s corruption.
Those who now despise the person whom "the People" elected in 2016 to serve as the nation's President until the next election might review the words of the very first President under the Constitution.
No wonder the First President of this Republic issued a grave warning for future generations on the "dangers" of the "spirit of Party"!
George Washington on the Baneful Effects of Political Parties
“Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the Spirit of Party...”
Excerpts from George Washington’s Farewell Address
September 19, 1796
“... One of the expedients of Party to acquire influence, within particular districts, is to misrepresent the opinions & aims of other Districts. You cannot shield yourselves too much against the jealousies & heart burnings which spring from these misrepresentations. They tend to render Alien to each other those who ought to be bound together by fraternal Affection.
...
“All obstructions to the execution of the Laws, all combinations and Associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, controul counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the Constituted authorities are distructive of this fundamental principle and of fatal tendency. They serve to Organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force — to put in the place of the delegated will of the Nation, the will of a party; often a small but artful and enterprizing minority of the Community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public Administration the Mirror of the ill concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the Organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common councils and modefied by mutual interests. However combinations or Associations of the above description may now & then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the Power of the People, & to usurp for themselves the reins of Government; destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.“... in a country so extensive as ours, a Government of as much vigour as is consistent with the perfect security of Liberty is indispensable — Liberty itself will find in such a Government, with powers properly distributed and adjusted, its surest Guardian. It is indeed little else than a name, where the Government is too feeble to withstand the enterprises of faction ...
“I have already intimated to you the danger of Parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on Geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, & warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the Spirit of Party, generally.
“This Spirit, unfortunately, is inseperable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human Mind. It exists under different shapes in all Governments, more or less stifled, controuled, or repressed; but in those of the popular form it is seen in its greatest rankness and is truly their worst enemy.
“The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge natural to party dissention, which in different ages & countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders & miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security & repose in the absolute power of an Individual: and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.
“Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight) the common & continual mischiefs of the spirit of Party are sufficient to make it the interest and the duty of a wise People to discourage and restrain it.
“It serves always to distract the Public Councils and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill founded Jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot & insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence & corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country, are subjected to the policy and will of another.
“There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the Administration of the Government and serve to keep alive the spirit of Liberty. This within certain limits is probably true--and in Governments of a Monarchical cast Patriotism may look with endulgence, if not with favour, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in Governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be, by force of public opinion, to mitigate & assuage it. A fire not to be quenched; it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest instead of warming it should consume."
Great post and the same goes for immigration. The Constitution gives that authority to the President.
FDR would have been impeached multiple times under today’s Democrat standard of foreign policy offenses.
And Truman after he fired the greatest general ever for trying to execute his own foreign policy.
And JFK after he learned not to follow the advice of his CIA experts after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, then basically ignored the CIA, the generals, his cabinet and the congress and took Khrushchev on head to head during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
And, of course, Lincoln who did it all his own way.
Exactly.
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