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To: little jeremiah

A mysterious drone from an unknown nation can turn Erdogan to ash and disappear. Erdogan is a dead man walking, begging to rest in Peace.

POTUS could see him ended in a nanno second, OR Saudi Arabia, or Israel, or even Russia, who are each and all capable of ending mad Erdogan’s belligerence towards the Kurds, or for any reason, when his self serving trouble-making interferes with any one of the objectives in place, by any one of these countries.

Who is Turkey to remake the neighborhood? Who knows what Trump knows about how this is going to turn out. Report out, on this thread, that supposedly ErkAgain now wants talks with Kurds. HEE! (If true.)


753 posted on 10/14/2019 8:00:55 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christ Rey! Publik Ed/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming. Infinitum.)
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To: RitaOK

Who is Turkey to remake the neighborhood?
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In Erdogan’s mind they have the inalienable right to do so. It was the Ottoman Empire that controlled the entire Middle East prior to WWI.

It was the Ottoman Empire that enslaved Europeans and moved into Eastern Europe. The word slave comes from the word Slav. The Ottoman’s castrated their male slaves and turned them into warriors for Islam.

Erdogan want to reestablish the Caliphate with him at its head. Turkey really needs to be removed from NATO, and all European Muslim migrants be returned to whence they came.


757 posted on 10/14/2019 8:15:44 PM PDT by Yulee
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To: RitaOK

Erdog has visions of a new Calipahte with himself at the head. Quite a few years ago he pured the military of all the generals (a couple or more hundred) who were not on board with his plan. Turkey used to be secularist for a long since Ataturk, and was much better run. Then there was the fake “coup” a few years ago where the rest of the not-on-board military were “gotten rid” of one way or the other.


758 posted on 10/14/2019 8:16:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (new tagline in the pipeline)
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To: RitaOK

ALL THE KURDISH FACTIONS are Marxist/Leninist.

These are NOT OUR FRIENDS.

They go by names like: YPD, PYD, PKK.

PYD/ Democratic Union Party and YPG/People's Protection Units

These groups formed in 2003 as a Syrian offshoot of the PKK movement. Officially, they are banned in Syria under a constitution which outlaws the formation of political parties along religious or ethnic lines.

Currently, these groups control a number of towns in northern Syria. The PYD is the political authority, while the YPG is the armed, military wing of the organization.

Like the PKK, they are generally secular, though they generally advocate for a democratic, rather than strictly Marxist-Leninist government. Owing to their close ties to the PKK and the YPG's generally secular and leftist outlook, the group has attracted many Kurdish and, even, secular Turkish members.

KDP/Kurdistan Democratic Party

This group is one of the Kurdish political parties involved in the operation of Iraqi Kurdistan. They also have strong historical ties to Kurdish communities within Iran.

It has been lead for many years by Masoud Barzani. Many high ranking party officials are directly or indirectly associated with Barzani, either through family connections or as close friends. Barzani is also the President of Unified Iraqi Kurdistan.

Leaked US State Department memos describe the organization as closer to an organized crime syndicate than a true political party. Though, lack of financial transparency within regional markets has hampered attempts verify these accusations.

While nominally democratic and secular, this group has been plagued by continual allegations of corruption, cronyism and political repression. The party has historically been closely associated with traditional tribal Kurdish groups.

PUK/ Patriotic Union of Kurdistan

While the OP did not specifically ask about this group, but the PUK is the other major political party within Iraqi Kurdistan.

Currently, the PUK works closely with the KDP, in spite of historical political and personal problems among the leadership of the two organization.

The PUK is, at least, partially lead by Jalal Talabani.

As opposed to the KDP's traditional tribal membership, the PUK has historically been viewed as the intellectual party. The PUK is a member of Socialist International and it's internal structure loosely mirrors that of the Soviet Union, with a central executive and 11 political bureaus which manage various aspects of party operations.

Like the KDP, there have been widespread allegations from several international watchdog groups of corruption within the PUK.

Peshmerga

The Peshmerga are not specifically a political organization. Rather they are the military of the Iraqi Kurdistan.

This is not to suggest that this group is not highly influenced by ongoing political disagreements within the region. To this end, the vast majority of Peshmerga fighters are closely associated with either the KDP or the PUK.

Indeed, individual groups of Peshmerga fighters are often referred to as either the Peshmerga of the KDP or the Peshmerga of the PUK.

762 posted on 10/14/2019 8:29:16 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian ( T Party)
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