Posted on 10/07/2019 8:29:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
What does woke media have against Joker?
When it premiered at the Venice Film Festival last month, Time magazines Stephanie Zacharek slammed the film for a supposedly sympathetic portrayal of its protagonist, who could easily be adopted as the patron saint of incels. A flood of similar comments followed from critics who worried its morally ambiguous depiction of a psychotic mass murderer would incite real-world violencethat lonely and alienated young men would, like the riotous mobs in the films closing scene, see the Joker as a hero. As if to validate these overwrought concerns, the New York Police Department even deployed undercover police officers to opening-night screenings.
None of it has stopped Joker from a projected weekend debut of $90 million-plus. Part of whats made it a box-office success is doubtless that we were all warned it was a dangerous and problematic film that some people might take the wrong way, and we cant have that.
The film, as most everyone knows by now, is about Arthur Fleck, a mentally ill clown who lives with his mentally ill mother and dreams of becoming a standup comic. Played by a rail-thin (and very disconcerting) Joaquin Phoenix, Fleck has serious problems and is very much in need of real help, which he doesnt get. Instead, he suffers a series of setbacks and humiliations and gradually slips into a violent psychosis.
By the films end, amid a violent city-wide riot, he has become a folk hero to the disgruntled rabble of Gotham. Amid random mob violence and societal breakdown, the Joker is born.
What critics have objected to above all is that Fleck is not portrayed as pure evil. He has actual reasons behind his violence. Simply put, hes taking revenge on an unjust world that showed him too little kindness and no love at all.
In recent interviews director Todd Phillips has expressed his disgust with liberal Hollywood and far-left woke culture. But the objections of these woke critics notwithstanding, Joker isnt really all that political. To the extent theres a political analogy at work, its an indictment of the coarseness of civic life. Theres even a subtle anti-Antifa feeling to the masked Gothamites holding up signs that read Wayne = Facist and Kill the Rich.
The character of billionaire industrialist Thomas Wayne isnt quite a Trumpian figure, but he is an unapologetic elite whos entirely correct when he says theres something wrong with Gotham and that the city needs help. Hes also telling the truth about Arthurs mother, Penny, and her disturbing history of mental illness and abuse. In the end, he and his wife are killed not directly by the Joker, but by a random rioter inspired by the Jokers psychotic violence.
At the risk of reading too much into what is, at bottom, a comic-book supervillain origin story movie, Joker is on some level an indictment. But not quite in the way liberals critics suppose. What Joker indicts is moral relativism.
Consciously or not, the film makes some implicit arguments, including an argument for compassion and community and against moral relativism and indifference. Here we have a profile of a disturbed man sliding into psychosis who gets no help from anyonenot least the government social worker whos supposed to be helping him. Its set in a city simmering with hatred and violence, where basic government services like trash collection have broken down.
A pop culture professor told the Washington Post that all the talk about potential real-world violence around the film is distracting from a great opportunity to use the movie for a dialogue about questions like alienation, toxic masculinity and the fragility of whiteness.
But Joker is really an opportunity for an altogether different dialogue about the role of families, about what people need most in life, about what makes for civic comity and solidarity. What it suggests, however unintentionally, is that maybe the best way to fend off the kind alienation and frustration that beset Arthur Fleck is with an intact family, a loving mother and a father.
Maybe the thing people need most in life is friendship and love and community. Maybe we need to rethink the way weve torn down the institutions and traditions that used to support these things. Maybe the radical atomization and isolation and autonomy of modern life doesnt foster prosperity and happiness. Maybe we need to start taking these things seriously.
If we do, that will mean rethinking a half-century of progressive thought, and questioning whether it has all been a pack of lies. And maybe thats the real reason woke media hate Joker.
I will pass. I’m selective about what films I pay to see. Downton Abby was more my speed.
You might like Peanut Butter Falcon
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“The film, as most everyone knows by now...”
No.
And it’s made up. Suggests nothing. Has no bearing with reality.
Blazing Saddles....
I’m a joker, I’m a smoker, I’m a midnite toker.
The comic book Joker, at least through the 1960s with Batman, was more of a character who wore the paint-face, and told jokes....being a strategist. As you got into the 1980s and 1990s, he was a guy on a mission to bring change or revolution. Crime was his tool, but he was out to revolutionize society.
This is the difference between Jack Nicholson’s Joker and the Heath Ledger/Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker. This modern Joker is the equivalent of Batman on intellect. He’s focused on bringing revolution for the little guy.
When the next mass murder happens, Hollywood will blame the NRA.
Thought about seeing it a couple of days ago. Then the hubby saw that Robert De Niro was in it. That was a solid no go for him.
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right...
I hear DeNiro gets shot in the face. Could be worth it.
Guaranteed.
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Imagine you’re Todd Phillips, a white heterosexual male under constant attack just for being a white heterosexual male — as in, White heterosexual males are problematic, especially rich ones who make bro comedies.
Hey, art is subjective, and I went into this thing assuming it would be a tribute of sorts to Martin Scorsese’s Taxi Driver (1976) and King of Comedy (1982), a new approach to comic book fare — you know, that kind of thing.
But I saw what I saw, and what I saw is this…
An artist who turned his legitimate frustrations with the Antifa-Occupy-Black Lives Matter-Resistance crybabies, these anarchist-fascists who seek to marginalize men like Todd Phillips for who he is, punish him for his success, and then censor his art. I think Phillips took all of that and turned it into his muse, not only to create the stunning Joker, but to reinvent himself as an artist.
“Joker is you!” Phillips is saying. “Joker is the godless god you spoiled losers worship; a sociopath who believes in nothing, who wants to burn down society because he’s not happy all the time — your leader is Madness, Anarchy, Intolerance, Jealousy, Envy, Bigotry, and Hate.”
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But there is something real going on here. When I was asked to talk to students at a capitol city University a few years back I couldnt help but notice that the students were 90% female at the time. I commented that it must be great to be a guy on campus nowadays. But there is something sick going on there. 20 something males are being discarded by society as worthless. Creates a powder keg of resentment. Eliot Rogers is their hero. What could possibly go wrong?
So many great scenes from that episode.
If Batman and Joker are peers, how is a mature Joker around to meet Bruce Wayne’s parents, who were killed when Bruce was very young? There must be a 20 year gap.
Didn’t Alpha Romeo play the Joker in the TV show?
LOL! I will mention that to him.
No, it was Beto Romero, the volks-wagon (people’s car), not the sports car.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Romero
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