Posted on 10/03/2019 12:14:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Where does evil come from? Joker offers the most banal answer imaginable — budget cuts for social workers — but its a devastatingly effective portrait of a serial killer in formation, bringing to mind a long, sickening line of American psychos.
More than any comic-book movie to date, Joker, directed with a fierce commitment by Todd Phillips, eschews entertainment and dares to repel a sizable proportion of the potential audience. With an awful foreboding, it drills into the psychic pain of Arthur Fleck — failed clown, failed standup comic, failed human. Joaquin Phoenix gives one of the creepiest performances ever put on film as Arthur, a product of the manifold breakdowns of 1970s New York City, here barely disguised as Gotham City. Phoenixs rancid torment jangles the nerves and turns the stomach.
Set in a 1981 urban hell piled with garbage and overrun by rats, Joker channels the notorious misfits of the era, including fictional ones: Mark David Chapman, John Hinckley, Bernhard Goetz, Travis Bickle (whose actions inspired Hinckley, the failed assassin of President Reagan), and Rupert Pupkin (an entertainment-industry isotope of Bickle). The presence in Joker of Robert De Niro, as a talk-show host much like the one who obsessed Pupkin in The King of Comedy, signals that Phillips wishes to re-create a bleary vision of urban squalor that inspired a singular period of cinema, perhaps the bleakest and most potent one ever.
Though Phillips has previously specialized in comedies such as The Hangover, he has made the least funny of the DC or Marvel movies. Joker is brilliantly done, searingly filmed, and so drenched in its seamy milieu that you can practically feel the roaches skittering under your feet. The score by Icelands Hildur Guonadottir and production design by Mark Friedberg are spectacular. But a word of caution: Many viewers will find it more nauseating than enthralling. Women in particular are likely to find Phoenix and Phillipss relentless nastiness too much to take. Although the Bruce Wayne family makes several appearances, there is none of the usual comic-book movie catharsis, none of the leavening jokiness of a Marvel movie, no roguish charm, no Joker delightedly sticking his head out the window of a truck like a golden retriever. Phoenixs Joker is merely a greasy, mentally unbalanced loser of the kind best avoided on trains or a dark urban block, the kind that women in particular want nothing to do with, maybe not even in a movie.
As is most often the case, Arthurs problems are traceable to an inability to connect with women; he is alienated from the mom he still lives with (Frances Conroy), who once worked for the business leader Thomas Wayne (Brett Cullen). He yearns for a kind word from a cute single mom (Zazie Beetz) who lives down the hall in his squalid apartment building. He also has a bizarre tic: He bursts into laughter for no reason, completely out of context. Phoenixs utterly mirthless laugh is one of the most chilling details of this amazingly detailed film.
Arthur scratches out a living in clown attire, doing odd jobs such as trying to attract customers outside of stores or doing sad gigs at childrens hospitals. When he comes to suspect that Thomas Wayne is his father, he begins to plot revenge, but meanwhile a Johnny Carsonlike TV comic (De Niro) mocks a tape of his standup act, and he has an encounter with three Wall Street guys on one of those eerily desolate, graffiti-covered subway cars of the era. Phoenixs Arthur Fleck couldnt possibly be a worthy challenger to someone like Batman (who hasnt been created yet), but what he has is something more chilling than cartoon super-villainy: an army of fellow incels, all of them dressed as clowns and ready to make the world burn. Arthur embodies the question of what happens when the folk-hero status of Bernhard Goetz and other vigilantes gets taken to an extreme. A Batman series set in such a morally and literally filthy city, a Sodom of diseased souls that cant be fixed by cleaning up a few criminals, seems to beckon. What if Batman had a city full of Travis BickleBernhard Goetz loners to deal with?
That factor has brought up a lot of discussion among the first audiences to see the film: By filtering the world through a Joker lens, is the film sympathetic to him? Does it tell diseased weirdos that there is an army of fellow angry losers out there who are waiting to mobilize and riot if only someone would fire the starting gun? Some critics are all but predicting that real-world violence will result from this movie. Id say those who harbor the potential to be mass murderers have such nonlinear minds that its pointless to try to anticipate their reasoning, much less intentionally dilute ones art to make it less disturbing. Joker does explore a real problem that is much on all of our minds, the problem of violent psychosis, and some will recoil from it. As a cinematic portrait of one shattered American, though, it is spellbinding.
So can we blame Hollywood if it happens, rather than the psychokiller?
Supposedly he lost 52 lbs for the role. That has to play a role in his looking rough.
Nah, I recently met Clooney at the studios. He does NOT look like the pics in the tabloid. He’s aged really bad and kudos to his handlers for making him look like an actual person and not the 80-year old zombie I met..
ANTIFA.
Interesting that Wiki does not have a listing for Bernhard Goetz.
That is interesting.
Sounds like trash.
I like movies with heroes.
Even if flawed, or corrupt, or compromised. Why make a movie entirely devoted to a lulu?
I loved Blue Velvet.
Irreversible, starring Monica Bellucci, is probably at the top of my list for unsettling.
Goetz didnt just defend himself, that he prepared to as he did, illegally, specifically, sets his case apart. He didnt just decide to carry defensively as many do, he was deeply upset by recurring assaults and armed up in premeditation for the next one.
That’s right.
To equate Goetz with a total psychopath is, itself, psychopathic.
Heard the NPR review of this. The libs are going to have problems with it according to them. I guess the director publicly said he stopped doing his dumb comedies because he didn’t want to get social media executed for a joke someone found offensive.
Freegards
RE: Does the Batman kick his butt in the end?
SPOILER: Bruce Wayne was just a kid then and Thomas Wayne was still alive. So, no Batman in the movie.
RE: So can we blame Hollywood if it happens, rather than the psychokiller?
Nope, as usual, the usual villain will be guns and the NRA.
The Joker is a great anti hero. Hes not a zero, hes a big negative. Like the mature retelling of hero origin stories, this will be interesting as a mature retelling of an anti hero origin story. One doesnt get THAT bad/cruel without an interesting (albeit revolting) background.
I know that it was and still is illegal to carry in NYC. So I get that he broke that law. But isn’t anyone who gets assaulted (be it once or many times) and as a result of that assault decides to carry for self defense; isn’t that person arming up in premeditation for the next assault? Doesn’t that describe literally everyone who decides to carry after being victimized? Goetz isn’t a criminal and certainly not a psycho. He simply refused to vicitmized further. If I had won the lottery, I’d have found him and given him half.
I’ll watch it on Netflix when I’m bored.
The idea of a comic book movie is unsettling.
Yup. Thing is, there was a deliberateness about his act which, coupled with notoriety, would appeal to a future Joker.
Bernie Goetz WAS Batman.
Black Panther and Captain Marvel were way more hyped than this movie thanks to the SJWs that gravitate towards Marvel.
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