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Flying Trains: Is China firm’s plan to develop 4,000 km/h train just a pipe dream?
South China Morning Post ^ | Laurie Chen

Posted on 09/30/2019 9:03:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A Chinese aerospace firm’s claim that it is developing a “flying train” capable of travelling at up to 4,000 km/h has met with scepticism and wry humour from transport experts and members of the public in China.

China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation announced plans on Wednesday to research a futuristic train network that would first run at 1,000km per hour between cities, eventually developing to reach top speeds of 4,000km/h.

That target is well over 10 times faster than the maximum speed of existing bullet trains.

The idea was unveiled by Liu Shiquan, the corporation’s deputy chief executive, at an industry conference in Wuhan in Hubei province on Wednesday, the official Science and Technology Daily reported.

The company did not give a timeline for its ambitious plans.

Liu said the company wanted to work with over 20 Chinese and international scientific research groups on the project, according to the report.

The target speed of 4,000km/h also by far exceeds the maximum speeds of commercial passenger jets such as the Airbus A380 at 1,020km/h and the Boeing 787 at 954km/h.

“Flying trains” would theoretically allow passengers to travel from Beijing to Wuhan in central China in half an hour, the Chinese aerospace corporation claims.

The project aims to combine supersonic aircraft and high-speed rail technologies such as magnetic levitation, or Maglev, and vacuum tube trains, or vactrains, on which Tesla founder Elon Musk based his concept of Hyperloop trains back in 2013. Hyperloop technology trains may be able to travel up to 1,200km/h.

Experts, however, have raised strong doubts about the Chinese scheme.

Zhao Jian, a professsor at Beijing Transport University, said the human body could only physiologically withstand acceleration to speeds of 4,000km/h for a very short amount of time.

(Excerpt) Read more at scmp.com ...


TOPICS: Science; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: china; highspeedtrain; supersonictrain
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To: SeekAndFind

As a ferroequinologist, I would like to see it. If they could put one between Tampa and Buffalo, I might take it...


21 posted on 09/30/2019 9:58:53 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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22 posted on 09/30/2019 10:02:52 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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Elon Musk wants to make an ultra-high speed train that runs in a tunnel that is under vacuum. No air, no air resistance.


23 posted on 09/30/2019 10:11:25 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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24 posted on 09/30/2019 10:13:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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25 posted on 09/30/2019 10:14:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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“the human body could only physiologically withstand acceleration to speeds of 4,000km/h for a very short amount of time”

That’s why we need to inject you with meds while you are strapped to a crash couch like in “The Expanse”.


26 posted on 09/30/2019 11:10:05 AM PDT by Boogieman
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First issue I can think of is how to develop those crossing gates and lights to be fast enough to go up and down properly... Unless the plan is to leave them down permanently...


27 posted on 09/30/2019 11:37:37 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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4,000 km/hr is over Mach 3. If it could be achieved on the ground, the shockwave (sonic boom) would destroy Chinese-quality structures for miles either side of the track.

(And, that doesn't even address the problems of supersonic motion through ground-level air densities.)

Fool's errand...

28 posted on 09/30/2019 12:35:23 PM PDT by TXnMA (Occam's Razor says that most conspiracist "brain farts" are simply indefensible...)
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The train would be enclosed in a tube, which means dedicated track and no crossings or other intersections.


29 posted on 09/30/2019 3:13:02 PM PDT by Rockingham
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The train would be a Chinese version of Musk's hyperloop, which is enclosed in an evacuated tube. The larger issues are the infrastructure and energy costs. The construction cost per mile would no doubt be so high as to require state financing, while energy costs to operate the thing would be staggering even with energy recovery on deceleration.

For the Chinese, the project engages with their Communist-inspired dedication to large scale engineering. It may also appeal to a desire for futuristic Chinese trains as an alternative and competitor for Boeing and Airbus. China has found that progress in civilian aircraft design and manufacture is easier to imagine than attain. Given the shoddiness of much of what China builds, Chinese trains are likely to be safer than Chinese civilian aircraft for years to come.

30 posted on 09/30/2019 3:26:56 PM PDT by Rockingham
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Sorry... Forgot to add the appropriate “/s”...{:-)


31 posted on 09/30/2019 4:19:53 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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