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To: greeneyes; little jeremiah
thanks. I saw that. The instructions are in the form. The instructions are not in the new form.

Here's a copy of the old Rev. 24May2018 form:
https://www.scribd.com/document/427771856/Icwpa-Form-401-24may18

The 24May2018 directions say "First hand information required." the form says (just like the new form says, knowledge other than first hand):


Near as I can figure, the instructions required first hand information in order to find an urgent concern “credible".
It does not preclude 2nd hand info only that it can't used to make an urgent concern credible nor can it be used for an ICWPA complaint.(No whistleblower protections)

I guess I didn't stop chasin.

The old form was uploaded to scribe by k paoulsen -> daily beast reporter.
https://twitter.com/kpoulsen/status/1177734528833445888
I have no idea from where he got it.
If it's accurate,(from the Larry O'Donnell school of reporting) then....What ? I don't know. Are the changes innocent ? on the surface it seems that way.
Beebe makes a strong case for shennanigans.

The couple of differences are, (and #1 is huge as Beebe points out) the "new" form does not contain the:
1."Background Information on ICWPA Process"(instructions & explanations)
2. form ID like the old one (Form 401)

Beebe does a comparison of 2 Whistle Blower Congressional Research documents issued 9 months apart - 12/12/2018 & 09/23/2019.

Both documents issued by Michael E. DeVine - Analyst in Intelligence and National Security.(This guys creds appear rock solid)
My question would be...Who commissioned or asked for these research documents and why ? I suppose I could ask him directly(I will) but I'm guessing it's going to take an FOIA request.

just shoot me.
1,759 posted on 09/29/2019 8:23:36 AM PDT by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: stylin19a

Thanks for taking a look and your comments.

I guess Tom Fitton needs to put on his cape and do his thing.


1,763 posted on 09/29/2019 9:03:20 AM PDT by little jeremiah (New tagline in the pipeline)
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To: stylin19a

The old form was uploaded to scribe by k paoulsen -> daily beast reporter.
https://twitter.com/kpoulsen/status/1177734528833445888
I have no idea from where he got it.
If it’s accurate,(from the Larry O’Donnell school of reporting) then....What ? I don’t know. Are the changes innocent ? on the surface it seems that way.
Beebe makes a strong case for shennanigans.
******************************************************I vote for dirty tricks/shenanigans!

My question would be...Who commissioned or asked for these research documents and why ? I suppose I could ask him directly(I will) but I’m guessing it’s going to take an FOIA request.

just shoot me.
*****************************************LOL. Nah-no shooting— we need inquiring minds.


1,769 posted on 09/29/2019 2:30:23 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: stylin19a; greeneyes; little jeremiah
Yesterday, the ICIG clarified that the old form is wrong regarding the law.

Office of the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community’s Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints

they cite: 50 U.S.C. § 3033(k)(5)(A)
3033(k)(5)(B)
3033(k)(5)(G)(i)


If the IG's law citations are correct, the part of the form with ""Background Information on ICWPA Process"(instructions & explanations),that has the first hand knowledge explanation, is wrong.
Which can beg the question, why even have that checkoff in the first place.

I'll go check the citations but I'm guessing this avenue is dead.

Just a note: Even though it is claimed the WB checked off the first hand knowledge box,
There is nothing in the unclassified whistle blower complaint where he\she claims first hand knowledge.
1,772 posted on 10/01/2019 12:11:39 AM PDT by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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